What is labour coming for next?

[MikeRafone]

I reckon after 12 years of dozen fuel duty that drivers will be next

what tax will the collect next to fill the black hole

The Conservative party.

In the interests of factual accuracy I would like to point out that criminal defence solicitors do not earn much more than those who work the tills.

Depends on whether it is all spent caring for her in old age. There may only be £23k or so left for you.

I think labour will really cripple the middle class, in five years the reform voters will return to conservative and we will get a conservative government return to power.

In the mean time we are looking in to emigrating to America. I lived there as a child and loved it, it was absolutely the best childhood. DH’s family are incredibly wealthy and are likely to move to Dubai.

I'll just grab my hair shirt and start flogging myself....

Up the magic... How far are we going back because the last Labour government apparently left the coffers empty.
Do we blame them or shall we use the global credit crunch as an excuse?.
Coalition, austerity... Brexit /covid, war.

They’re definitely coming for my career since they want the end of the UK hydrocarbon industry. Let’s import it instead because that’ll be ‘cleaner’

In the interests of factual accuracy I would like to point out that criminal defence solicitors do not earn much more than those who work the tills.

what £23/24k per year? Really

Yeah, some posters are desperate to suggest that they're going to put VAT on university fees but this would be a massive own goal. The government would have to stump up the cash and they wouldn't get anything extra back for decades, if ever.

Plenty of jobs out there advertised at 26k.

@HappiestSleeping and that's fine with me

And what form should this punishment take then?

That's the way my family look at it too. But it does impact IHT. I think it is better this way around to be honest.

the last Labour government apparently left the coffers empty

That was a very unfortunate joke to a friend that backfired spectacularly.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/may/09/liam-byrne-apology-letter-there-is-no-money-labour-general-election

If he sells the commercial buildings, and they all sell up - what do you think happens to the value? Why have they got the commercial buildings? It’s a miney making scheme, so that’s a stop to that

it quite as simple as selling up

Mortgage lenders don't allow LL to rent to family. UC don't allow a person to claim to pay family members.

As someone who earns well but isn't mega rich ( less than 100k)

I may be mad but I think I should pay more tax. We have covid and a cost of living crisis that I should contribute more to.( don't mention brexit and truss, I am livid at having to pay for these). As well as broken public services and a pending care crisis and climate crisis that simply should not be ignored

However I would much rather it was just through income tax than say taxing electric cars or reducing pension relief. These are things we need to still encourage

It's already unfolding........

Uc certainly do allow people to claim housing benefit or UC rent element when renting from family as long as they don't suspect a contrived tenancy. Have you tried renting any of your 11 properties to any family members? And many second home owners don't even have mortgages on the property?

Those who currently contribute to those food banks maybe will be less able to afford to do so after Labour have squeezed them.

Hence the need for high earners. Net contributors are too few and Starmer knows it - so I am convinced he won't squeeze too hard or his hopes of growth will go poof!

Ultimately the country needs to be more productive and create wealth. Without wealth - there is nothing to support the welfare state or universal healthcare with.

Drive up aspiration, create opportunity and promote innovation. Tis the only way.

And personal responsibility because the government has a role to play but so does the populace.

Ride my bike more, it’s far better for me than paying more fuel duty

@HappiestSleeping.. The point being most sensible people, even if the joke was not "literally" true, understood that the country and indeed the world had been through a global crisis.

In my list I also have forget isis, crisis.

Are you sincerely suggesting that having the State lock you up for reporting rape is better than the State ignoring your report?

He handed a golden card to old smug bollocks Cameron though 🤦‍♂️

Also, I don't think there are that many sensible people here anymore. Look what happened with the Brexit referendum.

Agree - also income tax means everyone contributes to some extent. Tonnes of threads with people who have worked for 50 years and only have the state pension and a tiny private pension to live on

Raise the thresholds a little and add 1-2p to the rate at all thresholds. Add the 50p rate but at over 500k, so people currently caught in the firing squad of 100 - 125k psychologically feel they should push through it.
Set the thresholds so people are incentivised to go for promotions/take on responsibility