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Thread 3 Starmer: Digging has started, bigger shovel required

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DuncinToffee · 26/07/2024 22:45

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Avalane · 02/08/2024 09:10

Evenstar · 02/08/2024 09:02

Thought everyone might enjoy karma in the form of a police dog https://x.com/luxjude352/status/1819250286063448071?s=61&t=xKCXjKa1-S6Ks0nSd_LXGg

Poor police dog, must have left a very bad taste in his mouth.

Thank you for this thread. I was about to deregister from MN due to some of the disgraceful threads on here over the last days.

cardibach · 02/08/2024 09:17

ilovesooty · 02/08/2024 08:45

Next Door was already a cesspit but it's got worse this week.

Mine (in Wales) seems to be full of people rubbishing the stats that show the 20mph law change has reduced accidents. Annoying (and daft - they are trying to trash the regular accident statistics as ‘government lying’) but not as bad as racism.

IClaudine · 02/08/2024 09:22

cardibach · 02/08/2024 09:17

Mine (in Wales) seems to be full of people rubbishing the stats that show the 20mph law change has reduced accidents. Annoying (and daft - they are trying to trash the regular accident statistics as ‘government lying’) but not as bad as racism.

Yes, my Next Door are obsessed with the 20mph limit and there is a lot of moaning about a new recycling system.

I am surprised the civil unrest thread lasted that long.

I hope that police dog got plenty of treats when he came off duty.

@Avalane I would have deregged if it weren't for this thread.

cardibach · 02/08/2024 09:36

IClaudine · 02/08/2024 09:22

Yes, my Next Door are obsessed with the 20mph limit and there is a lot of moaning about a new recycling system.

I am surprised the civil unrest thread lasted that long.

I hope that police dog got plenty of treats when he came off duty.

@Avalane I would have deregged if it weren't for this thread.

We’ve had new recycling systems for a while. It is nonsense in fairness given the housing type, but Next Door frothed for about a month then moved on.

IClaudine · 02/08/2024 09:42

The "disgusted by rioting" thread has now descended into outright racism. All the posters should be banned.

newnamethanks · 02/08/2024 09:52

Don't leave @Avalane , it's a win for the bigots and vicious loons if you go. Please stay.

Saucery · 02/08/2024 10:08

Evenstar · 02/08/2024 09:02

Thought everyone might enjoy karma in the form of a police dog https://x.com/luxjude352/status/1819250286063448071?s=61&t=xKCXjKa1-S6Ks0nSd_LXGg

Grin Grin
That dog knows an arse bite isn’t, strictly speaking, in the rules but he’s giving no shits.

MissMarplesNiece · 02/08/2024 10:09

newnamethanks · 02/08/2024 09:52

Don't leave @Avalane , it's a win for the bigots and vicious loons if you go. Please stay.

I agree @newnamethanks . We need to be a voice of reason and to keep calling out racism when we see it, and keep reporting it.

We are in the majority and we can't let a vocal minority think they've got some kind of upper hand and cause us to leave out of despair.

Saucery · 02/08/2024 10:14

I’ve found the moderation to be variable over the past few days, considering the number of reports I’ve made. There are a couple of Mods who seem more on the ball with it all and not because they always agree with me and delete (sometimes they don’t and I can see their point). But MNHQ need to take the current situation much more seriously. This isn’t some FB local group set up by volunteers. They have a responsibility to switch from reactive modding to active modding imo.

But today the sun is shining, again, so I’m not wasting time giving racists and agitators their jollies on here by arguing with them. 3 bags of clothes and 2 bags of books await rehoming and I’ve a car to 🧽

absquatulize · 02/08/2024 10:20

countrygirl99 · 02/08/2024 08:58

When DH has a customer who moans about immigrants he plays a little game with them. He tells them his youngest son is an immigrants. They makes all sorts of assumptions like born abroad (aka not really an immigrant) or that he's a step son. They never guess that he doesn't live in the UK.

Is Yaxley Lennon now a migrant, perhaps an asylum seeker fleeing persecution, and therefore we should all hate him?

absquatulize · 02/08/2024 10:26

Evenstar · 02/08/2024 09:02

Thought everyone might enjoy karma in the form of a police dog https://x.com/luxjude352/status/1819250286063448071?s=61&t=xKCXjKa1-S6Ks0nSd_LXGg

My partner once represent in court a client who was determined that their defence was that they just wanted to pat the police doggy woggy on the head at a football match. Oddly the dog locked onto their arm and did quite a bit of damage.

The judge wasn't impressed.

DuncinToffee · 02/08/2024 10:28

absquatulize · 02/08/2024 10:20

Is Yaxley Lennon now a migrant, perhaps an asylum seeker fleeing persecution, and therefore we should all hate him?

I am sure Esteban is now fully integrated in the local culture and fluent in Spanish

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absquatulize · 02/08/2024 10:28

MissMarplesNiece · 02/08/2024 10:09

I agree @newnamethanks . We need to be a voice of reason and to keep calling out racism when we see it, and keep reporting it.

We are in the majority and we can't let a vocal minority think they've got some kind of upper hand and cause us to leave out of despair.

We do also need to look after ourselves individually and collectively, we don't each need to venture forth onto each thread, but if some of us have the energy to in any given moment it is all good.

newnamethanks · 02/08/2024 10:30

🏅 for that 🐕 please. Good boy.

itsgettingweird · 02/08/2024 10:47

RafaistheKingofClay · 02/08/2024 01:24

Wasn’t Yaxley-Lennon chased out of Liverpool by his own supporters after he called it a shit hole?

Some of you need to share your rain. It’s bypassed here and is still hot and ridiculously humid here.

We had about 10 minutes. About 2 with huge drops and then some pathetic drizzle.

I stood in the garden Grin

absquatulize · 02/08/2024 10:51

itsgettingweird · 02/08/2024 10:47

We had about 10 minutes. About 2 with huge drops and then some pathetic drizzle.

I stood in the garden Grin

Do we need to ask some other countries if we can borrow their cloud seeding planes?

itsgettingweird · 02/08/2024 10:56

I probably just need to move 15 miles north. (Inland from the coast).

They had a brilliant storm but unfortunately that came with flash flooding and damaged businesses.

itsgettingweird · 02/08/2024 10:57

Watched on GMB this morning the head of specialist policing (can't remember his exact role) saying Farage needs to stop. He s a brilliant communicator (which I've said loads of times) and he needs to use that effectively not to stir up a storm.

Apolloneuro · 02/08/2024 11:03

Saucery · 02/08/2024 10:14

I’ve found the moderation to be variable over the past few days, considering the number of reports I’ve made. There are a couple of Mods who seem more on the ball with it all and not because they always agree with me and delete (sometimes they don’t and I can see their point). But MNHQ need to take the current situation much more seriously. This isn’t some FB local group set up by volunteers. They have a responsibility to switch from reactive modding to active modding imo.

But today the sun is shining, again, so I’m not wasting time giving racists and agitators their jollies on here by arguing with them. 3 bags of clothes and 2 bags of books await rehoming and I’ve a car to 🧽

My ears pricked up by what the prime minister said yesterday about the responsibility of social media. My husband and I were talking about that.

MUCH more action needs to be taken. In a slightly different area, I’ve reported several really obvious scams to Facebook. They’re never taken down. I’m taking about ‘Seasalt’ sales where the originating post is from a garbled ai generated account.

Facebook and Twitter need people to be personally held responsible in criminal charges, if they allow hate speak to stand on their platform.

BustingBaoBun · 02/08/2024 11:23

MUCH more action needs to be taken. In a slightly different area, I’ve reported several really obvious scams to Facebook. They’re never taken down. I’m taking about ‘Seasalt’ sales where the originating post is from a garbled ai generated account

Me too. I got scammed by an Aldi/Ninja sale (luckily lost no money but had to block two cards) and the number of posts saying this is a SCAM which gets deleted pretty quick. I've reported until I'm blue in the face, FB never remove the original 'sale'.

Crikeyalmighty · 02/08/2024 11:39

I personally think we should take action in the UK regarding x and Facebook- (particularly x)

To have an account you should need a picture profile, passport or official ID and an address linked to account- (and checks out but isn't public and managed by a non affiliated organisation ) as it is it's a giant site of bots, paid political agitators and abuse - all under anonymity in many cases- I realise mumsnet is anonymous too but it's far easier to report abuse and to be fair the worst it gets is someone having huge differences of opinion- I've rarely seen people called c*s or retards etc

absquatulize · 02/08/2024 12:22

Crikeyalmighty · 02/08/2024 11:39

I personally think we should take action in the UK regarding x and Facebook- (particularly x)

To have an account you should need a picture profile, passport or official ID and an address linked to account- (and checks out but isn't public and managed by a non affiliated organisation ) as it is it's a giant site of bots, paid political agitators and abuse - all under anonymity in many cases- I realise mumsnet is anonymous too but it's far easier to report abuse and to be fair the worst it gets is someone having huge differences of opinion- I've rarely seen people called c*s or retards etc

At some point, possibly not in the too distant future twitter, will become so unusable as the bots and hate proliferate, that the proportion of actual users will diminish and it will become an irrelevance.

DuncinToffee · 02/08/2024 12:40

https://x.com/PoliticsJOE_UK/status/1819314677077221425

Department for Education papers show £1.2 million was spent on helping Katherine Birbalsingh, the headteacher of Michaela School, to launch a second school in Stevenage, Hertfordshire. Ms Birbalsingh says the Covid pandemic prevented the plans for the second school going ahead.

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DuncinToffee · 02/08/2024 12:49

IClaudine · 02/08/2024 09:42

The "disgusted by rioting" thread has now descended into outright racism. All the posters should be banned.

It will fill up quick with irrelevant links now Wink

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Apolloneuro · 02/08/2024 12:54

I admire some of the philosophy of the Michaela School.