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Thread 3 Starmer: Digging has started, bigger shovel required

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DuncinToffee · 26/07/2024 22:45

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absquatulize · 01/08/2024 20:17

BIossomtoes · 01/08/2024 20:16

At least it would be well spent if it was used for rioters.

Every ship needs a masthead figure, I wonder if Farage is available?

itsgettingweird · 01/08/2024 20:18

'So on behalf of the British people who expect their values and their security to be upheld we will put a stop to it'

This line is brilliant. I've been saying all along these thugs cannot see the irony of "protesting" against immigrants saying they are violent criminals - using mindless criminal violence.

I'm so pleased Labour is leading us through this. Direct tackling if the situation rather than 3 word soundbites.

itsgettingweird · 01/08/2024 20:24

VimtoVimto · 01/08/2024 17:26

Starmer was DPP during the 2012 riots so probably has more experience of dealing with the situation than Sunak, Truss or Johnson.

He also has more integrity and intelligence than the 3 of them put together.

Zonder · 01/08/2024 20:24

Saucery · 01/08/2024 20:07

Bibby Stockholm Syndrome….

🤣

Evenstar · 01/08/2024 20:36

I said to DD last night that the upcoming vacancies on the prison hulk (aka Bibby Stockholm) could be well utilised in taking some of our knuckle dragging friends off the street

MissMarplesNiece · 01/08/2024 20:44

I can't remember where I read it, but apparently in Sweden rather than build more prisons, convicted offenders can "wait their turn" for a prison place. So, person is sentenced to say 6 months, and has to wait until another prisoner is released to make a space, before then entering prison to serve their 6 month sentence. Would something like that work in this country?

I've also seen suggestions that there are many women who shouldn't really be in prison & community sentences would be more appropriate. Maybe there could then be consolidation of those women for whom prison is unavoidable, into a smaller number of women's prisons leaving some women's prisons to be repurposed to use for men?

I personally think that there is a lot of debate to be had about the prison system - eg what is it for- punishment, rehabilitation, public protection, a combination of these, and what can be done to make it more effective in whatever the aim is decided to be? I hope that John Timpson, the new prison minister, will have some good ideas regarding this.

Apolloneuro · 01/08/2024 20:51

I’m not playing with the silly billies tonight (although it is fun). We’ve had some good news in our family today and I’m not going to let a Tory twat spoil my mood.

We won the election. Tough titties Tory twats!

IClaudine · 01/08/2024 20:56

Apolloneuro · 01/08/2024 20:51

I’m not playing with the silly billies tonight (although it is fun). We’ve had some good news in our family today and I’m not going to let a Tory twat spoil my mood.

We won the election. Tough titties Tory twats!

I had a peek on one thread. Seriously not going there, just grim.

Glad you had good news!

Oh and Fuck the Tories!

prettybird · 01/08/2024 20:56

Sometimes the shills/bots/trolls are just too obvious Grin

Still, it means we can have fun sharing our cat/pet/garden stories and/or pictures Halo

ghostyslovesheets · 01/08/2024 20:59

Typically for Tories - no cat tax paid - their cats are probably all in off shore cat beds

Apolloneuro · 01/08/2024 21:01

ghostyslovesheets · 01/08/2024 20:59

Typically for Tories - no cat tax paid - their cats are probably all in off shore cat beds

Only nice, decent people have cats.

absquatulize · 01/08/2024 21:04

Apolloneuro · 01/08/2024 21:01

Only nice, decent people have cats.

Or do cats only have nice decent people?

bombastix · 01/08/2024 21:14

absquatulize · 01/08/2024 21:04

Or do cats only have nice decent people?

Cats are judgy.

bombastix · 01/08/2024 21:17

MissMarplesNiece · 01/08/2024 20:44

I can't remember where I read it, but apparently in Sweden rather than build more prisons, convicted offenders can "wait their turn" for a prison place. So, person is sentenced to say 6 months, and has to wait until another prisoner is released to make a space, before then entering prison to serve their 6 month sentence. Would something like that work in this country?

I've also seen suggestions that there are many women who shouldn't really be in prison & community sentences would be more appropriate. Maybe there could then be consolidation of those women for whom prison is unavoidable, into a smaller number of women's prisons leaving some women's prisons to be repurposed to use for men?

I personally think that there is a lot of debate to be had about the prison system - eg what is it for- punishment, rehabilitation, public protection, a combination of these, and what can be done to make it more effective in whatever the aim is decided to be? I hope that John Timpson, the new prison minister, will have some good ideas regarding this.

You could do this, tag the offender and place them under house arrest. You can also put them under alcohol testing, drug testing, and take away their passport.

L1ttledrummergirl · 01/08/2024 21:18

I don't have a cat Sad since some insert appropriate descriptive ran her over I'm a nice, decent person though.

Apolloneuro · 01/08/2024 21:19

L1ttledrummergirl · 01/08/2024 21:18

I don't have a cat Sad since some insert appropriate descriptive ran her over I'm a nice, decent person though.

I’m sorry to hear that. Do you think you’ll have another one day?

prettybird · 01/08/2024 21:23

I wonder if there was a conscious decision not to take away Stephen Yaxley-Lennon's (aka Tommy Robinson) Irish passport when he was given unconditional bail and promptly fled the country because the UK would be happy to see the back of him Wink

Evenstar · 01/08/2024 21:25

ghostyslovesheets · 01/08/2024 20:59

Typically for Tories - no cat tax paid - their cats are probably all in off shore cat beds

😂

IClaudine · 01/08/2024 21:27

L1ttledrummergirl · 01/08/2024 21:18

I don't have a cat Sad since some insert appropriate descriptive ran her over I'm a nice, decent person though.

Every person who has had a cat they cared for is a nice, decent person.

I am so sorry about your cat. It is heartbreaking when they leave us, especially in an accident. Ours is 13 and I can't bear to think about...you know.

bombastix · 01/08/2024 21:27

prettybird · 01/08/2024 21:23

I wonder if there was a conscious decision not to take away Stephen Yaxley-Lennon's (aka Tommy Robinson) Irish passport when he was given unconditional bail and promptly fled the country because the UK would be happy to see the back of him Wink

I dare say that was a factor

CassieMaddox · 01/08/2024 21:28

I love this thread 😍

Also so happy Starmer is in charge. For a man with no plan he certainly seems to know what he's doing

IClaudine · 01/08/2024 21:30

Best thread on Mumsnet, Cassie!

BIossomtoes · 01/08/2024 21:33

IClaudine · 01/08/2024 21:30

Best thread on Mumsnet, Cassie!

Sure is. And just about the only one where you can guarantee you won’t be insulted.

pointythings · 01/08/2024 21:46

BIossomtoes · 01/08/2024 21:33

Sure is. And just about the only one where you can guarantee you won’t be insulted.

Absolutely, everywhere else is still awash with bitter Tories.

DuncinToffee · 01/08/2024 21:48

A memory by James Rowland FB

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