Thread 3 Starmer: Digging has started, bigger shovel required

[DuncinToffee]

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https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5117727-thread-2-starmer-return-of-the-labour-government?page=1

Sorry. I’m not usually this ranty, I promise.

May I join. I think I’ve found my people. I’ve been busy getting riled on the tax thread and need some sanity.

Ranty is fine on this thread

I have to step away from one of the Southport tragedy threads as they are advocating for the death penalty now.

Olympics and some pre-season football it is

I have no problem with ranty, it's what we do here. Along with common sense, moderation and pragmatism.

I must admit I also am enjoying seeing entitled Tories detonate with fury now that the adults are in charge again. It's heartwarming.
At the same time I feel sorry for the moderates who see the party they once voted for drifting away on a tide of sewage.

I haven't looked at the Southport threads, the whole thing is heartbreaking. I've been watching the Olympics instead, and crocheting for sanity. Dh and ds1 are watching a preseason match tonight via livestreaming, so I can crack on.

I’m strangely captivated by the gymnastics, although I’m not an Olympics fan. The strength!

I really wouldn't. It's grotesque.

they are phenomenal. All of them, but Biles is something else again.

Don't leave, people, the rabid right ranters have to be opposed. Undermine them whenever the opportunity arises - sometimes it takes them a while to even realise you've done so, which is interesting. The high tax economy of this thread needs all contributors, let's not have a cat shortage, please, that would be a great shame.

I'm watching Murray. On Eurosport. Bloody woke BBC.

You are Tom Daley

"You are Tom Daley "
excellent

What is clear is that many know very very little about court procedures, the role of the CPS etc and the broader aims and expectations of our justice systems.

Which is how governments get away with underfunding it. It's largely unseen work but so vital. I dearly hope the next ten years are spent correcting this.

(This isn't wholly related to current tragedies, it's a long term bug bear and worry that without active & informed support for our justice systems it is easy prey for particular political groups. We are set up this way after centuries of important discussions and decisions. The law is reason free from passion etc)

See Starmer is now in trouble for going to Southport but not making a speech there. That thread is going the same way as many others on that topic.

Hhhmmm personally I only want to hear from the police and maybe the Home Sec. it's not an opportunity for politicking. I wouldn't have been interested in Cameron/Sunak/Blairs comments either.

Tennis is on 601 if you don’t have Eurosport

It's really puzzling to me how some people twist the truth to support their agenda. Meanwhile, shocked and grieving families have to put up with this nonsense.
Of course we want to understand why he did it but the truth is we might never know.

Shocking scenes In Southport tonight, it seems the misinformation online last night from the fake news website may have originated with the Russians https://x.com/timesradio/status/1818315620334891065?s=61&t=xKCXjKa1-S6Ks0nSd_LXGg

Looks like trouble kicking of - EDL mentioned

www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cevwgqz0x41t

Exactly. It’s neither the time nor the place. And nobody has any idea what Starmer may or may not have done in private.

Disgusting behaviour

https://x.com/LozzaFox/status/1818373693133013102

Lozza trigger warning. I know he’s a contemptible piece of shit but Jesus Christ this is low even for him.

Christ. There are some on MN cheering this on. I am close to deleting my membership tbh. I think the site has been flooded with far right activists.

I thought it would get better after the election and they’d all piss off again. It appears they are here to stay for a bit.

Please don’t go. Hopefully things will calm down soon. They’re getting a heartening pasting on the Starmer thread.