Joe Biden is out - God bless him

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Put the country before himself - yes, finally, but he’s done it.

Please God let my country be ok.

I'm so worried. The world has enough issues. We don't need another Trump term. But I think you're right, unfortunately.

Harris/Sanders… let’s get this done!

Right, so let's say someone other than KM gets the nomination. What then happens with the war chest of donations/funds that (I think) legally should stay with the VP/President for their campaign only. Is that right, and where would the money go then if it is not KM as candidate in the end.

Just thinking of another angle, and I don't know the answer! I could have it all wrong anyway, and there may be some mechanism or other to overcome this issue, if indeed it is an issue.

The far right claim she got there by performing certain ‘favours’. Yes, that old chestnut.

They said a black man would never be elected and many of the same voters that voted Obama in twice refused to vote for Hillary. It’s not identify politics. (My opinion only, of course.)

Absolutely the right thing for him to do stepping down. There is no way Kamala will be voted in as president tho. America isn’t ready to have a female president. Way too many issues. It’s a foregone conclusion now that it will be a trump presidency. Plus the shooting will
have boosted his popularity. Sad but true.
Democrats need to regroup and come up with a viable candidate for the following election.

It’s not “the far right” and it’s not idle gossip. It was openly known and not hidden that she was having the affair with a powerful man that you are alluding to now. They were public about it. Surely she had credentials but that is never enough now.

All that would get done is putting Trump in the White House. The Democrats need to appeal beyond their base.

I don’t think Hilary lost because she was a women. She came across badly and women could vote for women. Women do have the vote!

Already on this thread people are claiming its ageism to say Biden has to go even though he was hopeless. That is why he had to go.

Which Mel Gibson film is about Ireland exactly?

You could say the same about Trump. Genuinely, do you think he was the one directing events in the 4 years he had in the White House? And what were his relevant qualifications? Being the host for American Apprentice? Michelle Obama was apparently extremely supportive of her husband, she probably knows the ins and outs of pretty much everything he did. I could quote an awful lot of law/procedures of my DH's job having lived with him for so long. However, I'm aware this doesn't mean she'd make a fab president but I think she's more popular than KH.

Trump, before deciding which party to adhere to, said he randomly chose the Republicans. This is not what I'd want to hear from a potential candidate. He wasn't interested (isn't, imo) in the betterment of the country. Inciting riots is not my idea of a good candidate. Inviting the crowds to join in his chant of Fight, fight is school playground behaviour-I see it all the time with my Year 9s.

Presumably they'd try to fix things so a different nominee could use the money, but that's uncharted territory and would no doubt bring legal challenges from the Republicans, so in the end they may have no choice but to take a huge risk on Kamala

Basically the whole thing's a colossal mess, but the Democrats are entirely to blame for hanging onto a hopeless cause and they may have to pay the price - the real problem being that the price will also be shared by countless millions who deserve much better than this

I don't think "But it worked for Trump" is an argument is one the Democrats should find themselves making.

I agree with this and if they have any sense, this is what they will concentrate on

Many believe he is literally Jesus’ chosen one, protected by God, and the saviour of Earth (yes, the entire planet), due to the assassination attempt and his providential survival.

No, what happened was that he wanted to distance himself from Boris Johnson who was regarded as another Trump. Let's be fair - he was.

I don't blame Biden for distancing himself from that clown BoJo.

I honestly think that the idea of someone taking over after a Trump administration is optimistic. The first thing he'll do is sow the seeds of dismantling limited presidential terms.

This could genuinely be the last democratic US election - as we know it - for a long, long time.

You can partially thank Bernie Bros for that and their 'Never Hillary'
And of course the tsunami of free press for Trump and the constant hits of 'But her emails'
Ironically the Guardian was particularly culpable.

Biden was anti English long before Boris Johnson was on the scene. He made no secret of his pro Irish Republican sympathies

I didn't say or imply this. He went in clueless, imo. He's a figurehead.

While this isn’t wildly unthinkable, at the same time, Trump is already quite well into his years so I’m not sure just how many more terms he would even be able to serve.

A bit late in the day. Should have done this months ago.