Major Incident at Trump Rally - Shots Fired

[WinterMorn]

Looks like some sort of injury to Trump, likely superficial.

Quite. But sort of half heartedly crouching down then standing to cheer is definitely odd.

I’ve listened to a few accounts and they’ve mentioned it didn’t immediately become clear what it was, the sound was cracker like

It was a moment then people screamed get down and crying chaos and running. It sounded as it would be in the moment not strange as an account

On a yacht race my husband was swept overboard by the mainsail boom. I absolutely froze. The crew worked fast and got him back onboard. I was in complete shock. Whiskey was poured down my throat, I was mute and shaking so much I couldn't move.

It’s so close to the 4th of July and there are still fireworks regularly. I heard some last night in my town even after this happened.

Many/most people follow the crowd. On an airplane with turbulence even I look around to see how everyone else is reacting. It probably not immediately obvious that it was gunfire. And then, people don’t know how to react exactly and might have a delayed reaction.

I am more interested in how the sniper shot the gunman so quickly. It’s being said already had him in his sight so why did he wait to shoot? The secret service is already being criticized for the gaps that allowed this.

Keeping it classy @timenowplease

Senile puppet. Biden has sent get well wishes to Trump. He goes high and you go low.

He’s a rapist he deserves what he gets in my opinion. I don’t know how the horrible feral scally ever got to the position he has.

Thanks for that explanation @AliceOlive .

My god you can't vote unless you registered for a party? That's.... Bizarre.

I don't want to go all Lib Dem but if there's anywhere that needs multi party politics and proportional representation is the US

Bonkers I agree, it's also what happens in cults isn't it 🤷🏼‍♀️

So you agree with capital punishment?

I also agree that's why it's dangerous to refer to 'the other side' as anything other than people with different opinions. We should be examining how & why this is happening not dismissing others as 'extremists/ 'whackjobs' etc

On another note, my Ds pointed out that there might be many different agencies involved in DR security at the rally? Perhaps that's why comms / reactions / prevention wasn't all it could have been?

Re panic: I was at a large public event 2 years ago where the scaffolding seating collapsed. Despite only 2 agencies, the Army & Met Police there, members of the public reacted & helped the victims before anyone official did. The Army & Police then argued & prevented the public from moving as a 2nd area collapsed before evacuating the public. It was a mess. People reacted differently. I must admit I was useless.

He's an extremely talented con man and grifter, that's how!

It's a bit rich to use this argument when America itself is in favor of capital punishment and furthermore their national sport is gunning down other human beings.

I consider myself a centrist and dislike extremes of anything, but can anyone answer what Trump did in office (policy wise, not his big gob or gaffes) which was damaging? I can’t actually think of anything he implemented which was ‘dangerous’, but then I didn’t follow it THAT closely

If Biden had any interest in "going high" he'd have retired years ago. He also wouldn't protected and promoted his pervert son.

Class has nothing to do with objective reality btw. You sound like you need to get out more.

Extrajudicial capital punishment at that.

Any attack on an elected representative or electoral candidate is an attack on democracy that should worry us all.

If you were angry about Jo Cox's murder but wish Trump's attacker's shot had been fatal, then you are a hypocrite.

My condolences to the family of the bystander who was killed.

For the right people yes he’s nothing but a flesh demon. He’s dangerous he’s known to incite hate and violence amongst his fans, he threatened stormy Daniel’s life if she spoke out about him. I really don’t know how anyone can defend him like he’s a baby that was born yesterday. He causes a lot of damage in the world.

Not all states in the USA have capital punishment.

27 states have and 23 do not.

He didn't start a war.

Only in the primary. So as an example, two dem candidates were running against one another for judge in the primary in my town. I’m registered independent and so I don’t get to vote in the Democratic primary. The registered Ds vote between the two. Then only the winner runs in the regular election, against whoever won the R primary and whoever runs as an Independent. In an area where the Rs and Indy’s never win, I would be cut out of making any real choice.

Yes, it’s unhinged. The two main parties have a tremendous grip on the country and they’ve both gone rogue. Both are unrecognizable from the two parties we had 30-40 years ago. The voters, also. As I said above, the rural parts and the working class are only recently voting republican. They feel economically abandoned by the democrats.

That's not really accurate.

You have to be registered to vote, which is like being on the UK electoral role. You can register as any party or as an independent. You can vote in all elections with any registrations but not always in a primary, which is the party candidate selection. Some states allow Independents to vote in primaries, in others you can only vote in the primary of the party with which you're registered.

As long as you're a registered voter you can always vote in a state, local or federal election for any candidate of any party.

So they deserved to be killed? OK...

What a nasty thing to say. But I guess that’s your personal favorite sport.

Not everyone did that, by the way:

www.mediaite.com/news/hes-got-a-gun-wild-video-appears-to-show-trump-rallygoers-spotting-gunman-moments-before-shooting/

@Pelham678

You are incredibly naive if you believe that all political assassinations successful or not are simply caused by randomly mentally deranged killers. Jo Cox was murdered because her killer was fundamentally opposed to her political views and that was what motivated him to kill her. Yes he was probably mentally unstable but the motivation was political otherwise he could have chosen to kill some random person in the street or shoot up an infants school.

My point is that when a left wing politician such as Jo Cox was killed the killer was correctly labelled as a right wing extremist. However in the case of Trumps assassination attempt there have been many posters suggesting it was a manufactured set up to garner votes for Trump or posters stating that they wouldn't be upset if he had died.

My question is do you believe that left wing extremists are less likely, more likely or about the same level of danger to society and democracy as right wing extremists?

Because there have been a lot of double standards posts on this thread and what worries me about the hard left is that an assassination attempt is somehow viewed as either a conspiracy or not a bad thing. Or as you put it "I think the vast majority people in the UK don't want Trump dead" which is correct however there have been several posts on this thread saying they wouldn't be sad if he was.

Lastly as for your comments on access to guns in the US then I completely agree that it is insane to allow people access to military grade weapons but that is a separate matter and despite what the rest of the world thinks Americans love their guns.

What's a peculiar post to make, I guess you're just a peculiar person 🤷🏼‍♀️