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Major Incident at Trump Rally - Shots Fired

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WinterMorn · 13/07/2024 23:26

Looks like some sort of injury to Trump, likely superficial.

Major Incident at Trump Rally - Shots Fired
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wowzw · 14/07/2024 09:28

justasking111 · 14/07/2024 09:11

From a journalist and author. An analysis.

Also the gun used. How the heck did they get that into a rally?

he wasn't at the rally. He was on the roof of an adjacent building.

Scammersarescum · 14/07/2024 09:32

I don't agree with any political violence really in a democracy. Not even milkshaking. I can understand it more where totalitarian regimes exist.

However I have been saying for a long time now that someone will try and shoot Trump in the face. You could feel it coming.

If you constantly stoke up the kind of fever pitched rhetoric that leads to an attempted overthrow of democracy, in such a big country with such unfettered access to guns, it was only a matter of time before this happened.

It doesn't surprise me that the shooter was a registered republican either. Donald Trump has made many republicans politically homeless. Plus democrat supporters would have known perfectly well that this would just make Trump a martyr if it had succeeded .

This will certainly strengthen support for Trump. There's already the right wing politician Geert Wilders saying that the poor poor right wing politicians are targets are need more security.

Livelovebehappy · 14/07/2024 09:36

HRTQueen · 14/07/2024 00:48

This will make him even more popular and his reaction will be to many heroic just what many in the US love

this is more bad news for the Democrats let’s hope they make changes quickly

and still Trump will support the NRA

Won't make any difference. Democrats were already dead in the water. And rightly so. Anyone slightly thinking Biden is a better choice is absolutely bonkers.

Livelovebehappy · 14/07/2024 09:40

bananacreampie · 14/07/2024 00:55

Pls stop what? I would rather a muddleheaded president of the USA than a narcissistic petulant felon who incites his followers to violence.

Seriously? It's dangerous for the entire world to let a weak incompetent man lead one of the big world players into the coming unstable situation we are currently in, with possible world war looming.

Willmafrockfit · 14/07/2024 09:40

Livelovebehappy · 14/07/2024 09:36

Won't make any difference. Democrats were already dead in the water. And rightly so. Anyone slightly thinking Biden is a better choice is absolutely bonkers.

he is not senile though as mentioned above,
he is simply old and the mistakes are being paid much attention to

Squirrelsnut · 14/07/2024 09:42

Spanglybangles · 13/07/2024 23:43

This.

100%

thisiswheretheseagullfliesaway · 14/07/2024 09:44

Livelovebehappy · 14/07/2024 09:40

Seriously? It's dangerous for the entire world to let a weak incompetent man lead one of the big world players into the coming unstable situation we are currently in, with possible world war looming.

Not great having one who doesn't get the concept of consent either. It's terrifying.

BloodyHellKenAgain · 14/07/2024 09:44

Scammersarescum · 14/07/2024 09:32

I don't agree with any political violence really in a democracy. Not even milkshaking. I can understand it more where totalitarian regimes exist.

However I have been saying for a long time now that someone will try and shoot Trump in the face. You could feel it coming.

If you constantly stoke up the kind of fever pitched rhetoric that leads to an attempted overthrow of democracy, in such a big country with such unfettered access to guns, it was only a matter of time before this happened.

It doesn't surprise me that the shooter was a registered republican either. Donald Trump has made many republicans politically homeless. Plus democrat supporters would have known perfectly well that this would just make Trump a martyr if it had succeeded .

This will certainly strengthen support for Trump. There's already the right wing politician Geert Wilders saying that the poor poor right wing politicians are targets are need more security.

To be fair to Geert Wilders he appears to be correct after what's just happened (and if the comments on MN saying it was a shame the shooter missed are anything to go by).
All politicians should be safe to go about their business, even the ones you don't like.

BloodyHellKenAgain · 14/07/2024 09:45

Squirrelsnut · 14/07/2024 09:42

100%

Apart from the shooter 1 other person is dead and 2 are critically injured FFS!!!

RegimentalSturgeon · 14/07/2024 09:52

BloodyHellKenAgain · 14/07/2024 09:45

Apart from the shooter 1 other person is dead and 2 are critically injured FFS!!!

And, them being at a Trump rally and all, what do you reckon their stance was on gun control?

RazzleDazzleEm · 14/07/2024 09:56

Just watching the footage where they bundle him into a car. The ss around him sheild him with their body. Assume they have body armour on but one man holds his hand above trumps head.

I'm wondering shouldn't they have bullet proof umbrellas to quickly get up to protect all their heads?
Putting a hand up seems very ineffective.

BloodyHellKenAgain · 14/07/2024 09:56

RegimentalSturgeon · 14/07/2024 09:52

And, them being at a Trump rally and all, what do you reckon their stance was on gun control?

Whatever their stance on gun control doesn't mean they deserve to die.

RazzleDazzleEm · 14/07/2024 09:56

It's ironic isn't it thing re guns.he wants them!!

Hélène79 · 14/07/2024 09:57

Scammersarescum · 14/07/2024 09:32

I don't agree with any political violence really in a democracy. Not even milkshaking. I can understand it more where totalitarian regimes exist.

However I have been saying for a long time now that someone will try and shoot Trump in the face. You could feel it coming.

If you constantly stoke up the kind of fever pitched rhetoric that leads to an attempted overthrow of democracy, in such a big country with such unfettered access to guns, it was only a matter of time before this happened.

It doesn't surprise me that the shooter was a registered republican either. Donald Trump has made many republicans politically homeless. Plus democrat supporters would have known perfectly well that this would just make Trump a martyr if it had succeeded .

This will certainly strengthen support for Trump. There's already the right wing politician Geert Wilders saying that the poor poor right wing politicians are targets are need more security.

Agree with most of this but I don't think it's not surprising the shooter was Republican. There's been entrenchment, excess, extremism and downright craziness at both ends of the political spectrum in the last decade, and the left is just as responsible for dangerous populist rhetoric as the right. Trump unfortunately has driven much of the excess and violence on the right, in a society that could near enough get hold of a gun as easily as they get hold of a packet of crisps.

I find it odd that other posters are trying to remove the political from this, because above all it's an attack on the democratic process however crazy we think he is. It absolutely is political.

Blackcats7 · 14/07/2024 10:06

I don’t advocate violence but for Trump and Putin would I be upset of they were dead? Not at all. The world would be a better place without these two psychopaths in charge.
However assassinations could easily stir up civil war and killing people for the greater good is the thin end of the wedge.
I will be honest though and admit that my initial thought on seeing Trump with a bloody ear (and before I knew anyone else had been killed or hurt) was damn, they just missed.
It is not about being right or left wing. Trump and Putin go far,far beyond that.

BloodyHellKenAgain · 14/07/2024 10:14

Blackcats7 · 14/07/2024 10:06

I don’t advocate violence but for Trump and Putin would I be upset of they were dead? Not at all. The world would be a better place without these two psychopaths in charge.
However assassinations could easily stir up civil war and killing people for the greater good is the thin end of the wedge.
I will be honest though and admit that my initial thought on seeing Trump with a bloody ear (and before I knew anyone else had been killed or hurt) was damn, they just missed.
It is not about being right or left wing. Trump and Putin go far,far beyond that.

I wouldn't feel sad if trump died naturally or in an accident but political assassination is a completely different matter.

In a democracy all politicians should be able to do their job in safely, otherwise all hell could break loose with lots of sensible, moderate people afraid to run.

Just look at the effect threats and violence against politicians in the UK have had.

Hélène79 · 14/07/2024 10:15

BloodyHellKenAgain · 14/07/2024 10:14

I wouldn't feel sad if trump died naturally or in an accident but political assassination is a completely different matter.

In a democracy all politicians should be able to do their job in safely, otherwise all hell could break loose with lots of sensible, moderate people afraid to run.

Just look at the effect threats and violence against politicians in the UK have had.

100%. We don't want to make political martyrs of these people.

BloodyHellKenAgain · 14/07/2024 10:22

Hélène79 · 14/07/2024 10:15

100%. We don't want to make political martyrs of these people.

IMO it's not so much making martyrs out if people you don't agree with.

It's more not thinking murder is okay just because you disagree with someones opinion.

Loonaandalf · 14/07/2024 10:27

Blackcats7 · 14/07/2024 10:06

I don’t advocate violence but for Trump and Putin would I be upset of they were dead? Not at all. The world would be a better place without these two psychopaths in charge.
However assassinations could easily stir up civil war and killing people for the greater good is the thin end of the wedge.
I will be honest though and admit that my initial thought on seeing Trump with a bloody ear (and before I knew anyone else had been killed or hurt) was damn, they just missed.
It is not about being right or left wing. Trump and Putin go far,far beyond that.

Couldn’t have said it better myself, don’t condone violence either but it’s an awful pity that the one person that died wasn’t Trump.

icelolly12 · 14/07/2024 10:34

sashh · 14/07/2024 04:02

Watched on TV, there was a woman facing the camera as Trump's car sped off with her arm in the air shouting, "USA, USA" I have no idea what that was about.

It is bizarre from this side of the pond seeing the crowds start chanting USA when there's an assassination attempt showing quite clearly how broken the country is

medianewbie · 14/07/2024 10:39

SloaneStreetVandal · 13/07/2024 23:50

A possible attempt on his life and PP's first thought is "this might make him more popular" and he "possibly set this up". This is what the moral high ground looks like, is it? 🙄
A shameful race to the bottom, in reality.

It's interesting how many people seem doubtful about what happened. It doesn’t mean they are 'at yhe bottom' or don't care that at least 1 man in the audience lost his life & others were injured too. But it's important that people crucially assess situations too. If it was straightforward then his security need a rocket frankly!

SloaneStreetVandal · 14/07/2024 10:42

Blackcats7 · 14/07/2024 10:06

I don’t advocate violence but for Trump and Putin would I be upset of they were dead? Not at all. The world would be a better place without these two psychopaths in charge.
However assassinations could easily stir up civil war and killing people for the greater good is the thin end of the wedge.
I will be honest though and admit that my initial thought on seeing Trump with a bloody ear (and before I knew anyone else had been killed or hurt) was damn, they just missed.
It is not about being right or left wing. Trump and Putin go far,far beyond that.

It's entirely about left and right. And the inability of people like yourself to differentiate between anything right leaning and deranged extremism.

You've essentially said here that everything right of centre is of equal value, and whilst you don't condone violence, you're sorry Trump survived.

Goldenbear · 14/07/2024 10:47

Livelovebehappy · 14/07/2024 09:40

Seriously? It's dangerous for the entire world to let a weak incompetent man lead one of the big world players into the coming unstable situation we are currently in, with possible world war looming.

Trump is 78, 78 isn’t really an age associated with strength and physical endurance that would be expected in such a role!

bananacreampie · 14/07/2024 10:48

Livelovebehappy · 14/07/2024 09:40

Seriously? It's dangerous for the entire world to let a weak incompetent man lead one of the big world players into the coming unstable situation we are currently in, with possible world war looming.

You're describing Trump - but you left out convicted felon, low intellect, low-empathy, inveterate liar, and truculent toddler.

Hélène79 · 14/07/2024 10:49

SloaneStreetVandal · 14/07/2024 10:42

It's entirely about left and right. And the inability of people like yourself to differentiate between anything right leaning and deranged extremism.

You've essentially said here that everything right of centre is of equal value, and whilst you don't condone violence, you're sorry Trump survived.

But it's not about left and right, it's about, as you say "deranged extremism" and there's plenty of that on the left too (and I'm on the left).