TAAT. Where does the north end?

[ArseInTheCoOpWindow]

Where?

Sheffield? Birmingham? Below the Humber, Lincolnshire?????

I live in Sheffield. I think we are bottom of the North. Nottingham and Derbyshire which touch on us are Midlands.

Manchester is north but is Cheshire?

For me I'd say the old Humberside boundary, South Yorkshire and Cheshire.

Part of me does think the River Humber, but then I can't think of north Lincolnshire as being Midlands!

It depends if you're having north, midlands and south or just north and south. For me north stops around stoke on Trent and south is below Cambridge

It's good to have aspirations

I'm from Portsmouth but Yorkshire parents and have always spent a lot of time there. North is in a straight line from the Dee Estuary. So Sheffield is about the southern limit of North.

Many years ago I had a boyfriend from Lichfield. The first time I went to meet his parents his mum asked me if I'd ever been Up North before. I am not often lost for words but that totally stumped me, Lichfield is nowhere near north.

I'm from Derbyshire and we are not northerners. Starts at Sheffield!

So I searched for the sacking/harrying of the north because I figured who better to decide where the north starts/ends than a bunch of Norman invaders. And the Normans agree that Sheffield is the boundary and Derbyshire isn’t North, not even the really northern parts of Derbyshire.*

*This assumes that the Normans had the foresight to write their own Wikipedia entry about this.

This misses most of Yorkshire out 😂😂😂
Surely Yorkshire is in the North of England?

The line needs to be tweaked so across from Chester to just south of Grimsby? : to include North Derbyshire ( ie Glossop etc.) and North Nottinghamshire ie north of Mansfield? ( It always surprises me how far north Nottinghamshire goes. I've lived in Sheffield off and on for nigh 40 years so 'slow learner'.

Places like Derby, Stoke on Trent definitely Midlands but Buxton counts as north on account of it's freezing in winter and has an amount of Manchester overspill.

I feel a PhD coming on.

I'm Mancunian and I'm northern

Yes, of course.

Yep Buxton is north.

Merry memories of school visits to Buxton opera house or whatever it was being snowed off.

It always snows in Buxton.

How can Wigan not be in the North. It's not Midlands Soul now is it.l

The definitions of North are difficult partly because big conurbations like Manchester and Sheffield have encroached on Cheshire and Derbyshire eg the purchase of parts of Cheshire (now Wythenshawe) by the Simons and Greater 'Manchester extending into Cheshire and the taking over of Dore, Totley, Norton etc. by Sheffield from Derbyshire.

It’s the Dee Estuary to the Humber Estuary, as any fule kno.

Wigan is in the north.

Keep the faith👊🏼

Dore and Totley are proper parts of Sheffield though.

Yes but they (Dore,Totley etc.) didn't used to be ( before 1934) so a definition of the North ending at Sheffield would have been further north than the current Sheffield border. The definition of North has moved south.

I'd argue parts of Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire must be in the North as they go further north than Sheffield ie almost as far north as Barnsley.

I feel it would take me more than just 3 years of a PhD to sort it : if not impossible.....possibly a lifetime.....oh joy.

I don't know where the north starts but the south starts in Sutherland. Clues in the name.

Starts in Perth and ends in John O'Groats.

Everywhere else is down south

The Thames. Or if I'm feeling very adventurous, the top of the M25.

My accent switches back somewhere around Darlington (I’m a geordie living in Suffolk). So around there for me.

I'd say Sheffield is the start of the north. Liverpool is pushing it.

Buxton is not in the north, it's in Derbyshire.

I live in the North East so even saying Manchester is north when it takes 3 hours to get there feels odd to me!
But I’d say Yorkshire is north and anything below that not.

Inverness

Same! North of the top of the M25 for me!