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What's the point of bloody sex scenes? Is there a single film that's genuinely needed one?

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IncompleteSenten · 08/07/2024 17:25

They're everywhere. I'm just waiting for the next bloody Harry Potter film to be Harry Potter And The Beast With Two Backs.

What's the point of them? I've never watched a film in my life where I've gone ahh, well, i was a bit confused but now i saw that bit of sweaty nudity and theatrical groaning I totally get the characters and the plot.

It's ridiculous. I'm watching a film and all of a sudden I've got two naked professional fakers writhing around on screen for no discernable reason.

This is in chat not aibu because I'm not. I bet none of you can name a film that badly needed us to see the characters fucking.

Porn films are obviously excluded. I accept that without the sex, we simply won't understand why the pizza delivery guy was happy not getting £18.95 for the cheese crust large ham and pineapple.

I was going to make a joke about stuffed crust but I'm a better person than that.

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MrHarleyQuin · 08/07/2024 18:30

Titillation for those who like that sort of thing. I'm not keen either, watching other people pretend to have sex is about as sexy or necessary as watching them go to the toilet.

I just feel really embarrassed for the actors.

IncompleteSenten · 08/07/2024 18:30

PontiacFirebird · 08/07/2024 18:29

i think it’s that mostly sex scenes in tv (and I watch far more tv drama that actual films) are very paint by numbers and badly done.
Also very unsexy.
It’s always burst in the door, eat face like rabid dog, push up skirt, immediately hump. The woman is always totally ready to go after 3 seconds of snogging, even if she is 47 ( the chafing!) and it’s all incredibly in sync and choreographed.
I quite like scenes where the sex reveals something new about the character or the relationship, which is rare.

Like a tattoo? 😁

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AbraAbraCadabra · 08/07/2024 18:31

I quite like a good sex scene. As obviously do many other people or they wouldn't be in films. I'd rather a sex scene than the weird nudges they used to have in films at which you were suppose to just know they'd gone off to have sex!

QueenDramaLlama · 08/07/2024 18:32

I read your title completely literally as bloody sex scenes.
I was thinking "yuck, you're right, we don't need to see that". 😂

Blackcats7 · 08/07/2024 18:32

I detest them and fast forward if possible. Agree re Game of Thrones. An early sex scene put me off completely.
Pretty much always the woman’s body most on show.
I read an interview with Julia Roberts who said she refuses nude scenes but in her earlier days was put under great pressure to do them.
Sex can be clearly implied without the actual pumping and posturing.
Perhaps we could go back to the days of showing a train going into a tunnel instead!

IncompleteSenten · 08/07/2024 18:32

QueenDramaLlama · 08/07/2024 18:32

I read your title completely literally as bloody sex scenes.
I was thinking "yuck, you're right, we don't need to see that". 😂

🤣

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MrHarleyQuin · 08/07/2024 18:34

There are far sexier scenes between characters that don't involve actual sex. I always feel relieved when they cut the sex out and just show them in bed in the morning.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 08/07/2024 18:34

It’s the same in a lot of tv ‘dramas’ , isn’t it? And it always seems to follow the same pattern, they are all so eager that it takes place standing up in the hall with most of their clothes on. Not exactly the best scenario for ensuring the female orgasm on the first encounter , I would think. If they do get as far as the bedroom, the sex always seems to follow the same playbook ( and of course it’s always a success for both participants). Of course this is all very male imagining.

Then they are so passionate that they sleep with their underwear on ; yes, I do know it’s in case the viewer , or rather the network buyer, see any ‘naughty bits’….

I record virtually everything now, so when we watch it , we can fast forward through the ads and the regulation sex scenes ( and so we can run it back if someone has been mumbling and you can understand what they were saying, but that’s a whole new thread).

IncompleteSenten · 08/07/2024 18:34

Blackcats7 · 08/07/2024 18:32

I detest them and fast forward if possible. Agree re Game of Thrones. An early sex scene put me off completely.
Pretty much always the woman’s body most on show.
I read an interview with Julia Roberts who said she refuses nude scenes but in her earlier days was put under great pressure to do them.
Sex can be clearly implied without the actual pumping and posturing.
Perhaps we could go back to the days of showing a train going into a tunnel instead!

Indeed. It can be all music and arty and shit.
Imagination is far sexier than grunty writhing any day of the week imo

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ohyesido · 08/07/2024 18:35

Particularly 80s films, lots of female nudity but the men stayed fully clothed.

Tits For No Reason is a common trope, to get people to pay to watch. I doubt many would be interested in Oppenheimer without Flo’s TFNR

PontiacFirebird · 08/07/2024 18:35

Ha! Not a tattoo but maybe like a tender side, or a wild side, or it could be really awkward or unexpected in some way.

Blackcats7 · 08/07/2024 18:35

PontiacFirebird · 08/07/2024 18:29

i think it’s that mostly sex scenes in tv (and I watch far more tv drama that actual films) are very paint by numbers and badly done.
Also very unsexy.
It’s always burst in the door, eat face like rabid dog, push up skirt, immediately hump. The woman is always totally ready to go after 3 seconds of snogging, even if she is 47 ( the chafing!) and it’s all incredibly in sync and choreographed.
I quite like scenes where the sex reveals something new about the character or the relationship, which is rare.

I always wonder how they manage to have sex up against a wall so easily and apparently orgasmically?
Surely there would be some balance issues and difficult angles involved?
Not something I have ever tried myself though.

3luckystars · 08/07/2024 18:35

In the English Patient there was one scene in the bath and I think it was important to the story but mainly they are not needed. (Especially if there is plane landing on a beach, like that’s all you ever need in a film!! )
whatever it is about planes landing on beaches, I’m hooked after that.

I agree with you for 90% but some films it is an important part of the story.

Pleiades2020 · 08/07/2024 18:35

ChessieFL · 08/07/2024 17:41

Basic Instinct? Not sure that would work without the sex scenes.

I do agree that in a lot of films they’re not necessary.

I was going to say Basic Instinct as well. It's pretty much the whole point of the film.

Good Luck to you Leo Grande (Emma Thompson).

American Werewolf in London?

pandasorous · 08/07/2024 18:35

Crinkle77 · 08/07/2024 17:35

Fifty Shades of Grey perhaps?

I think the entirety of that film was probably unnecessary (I didn't watch it, I tried to read the book but I couldn't cope beyond page 1 due to the abominable writing)

placemats · 08/07/2024 18:39

If it's a man film, ie serious, interesting and intellectual, it's often said by men that the narrative is being disrupted. Said men never watch women's films because they lie and they're flimsy with no constrictive addition to their life.

True fact 😬😃

PontiacFirebird · 08/07/2024 18:39

I always wonder how they manage to have sex up against a wall so easily and apparently orgasmically?
Surely there would be some balance issues and difficult angles involved?
Not something I have ever tried myself though.

I have tried it ( not enough hobbies) and it depends on the man being quite short actually. 🤓Otherwise he’d better have strong knees.

MrHarleyQuin · 08/07/2024 18:39

People are drawn to films because they enjoy watching violent scenes? Wow. I watch films for the story, acting, drama or humour. Or sheer imagination of some of them. Again, if violence is part of the plot, a war film for example, it still doesn't have to be gratutious. Nearly all sex scenes are gratutitous.

ApplesonTuesdays · 08/07/2024 18:39

Lots of sex scenes are a bit unnecessary. However, I loved normal people - the sex scenes were meaningful and seemed right in the story.

JohnofWessex · 08/07/2024 18:40

The obvious issue that it seems to raise is how it affects actors in particular women.

Just look at Harvey Weinstein.

Yiou clearly need to make it clear that some characters are having sex, and sometimes the full grusoime details are necessary. I can think of The Duke of Bridgewater who was getting off at Edge Hill much to the annoyance of his wife but do you need every last details in most cases?

Lalalacrosse · 08/07/2024 18:41

Blackcats7 · 08/07/2024 18:35

I always wonder how they manage to have sex up against a wall so easily and apparently orgasmically?
Surely there would be some balance issues and difficult angles involved?
Not something I have ever tried myself though.

Balance issues are a definite problem. There’s also height discrepancies causing -ahem- misalignments. And the chance of it all resulting in a screaming orgasm for her is not high.

I find all the sex scenes really annoying. Wanted to watch Bridgerton (period drama with a diverse cast that is apparently genuinely funny) but the thought of all the sex scenes really put me off.

AdviceNeeded2024 · 08/07/2024 18:42

I know people have mentioned it on another thread but there is a short series on Netflix called Obsession I think it is, man has affair with sons partner and is obsessed with her, lots of sex scenes.
Most of the sex scenes are really cringe and in one episode the he passionately kisses then shags a hotel pillow which she had slept in the bed the night before on a trip away with her partner - it will be burned on the back of your brain forever should you choose to watch it!!

3luckystars · 08/07/2024 18:43

BigButtons · 08/07/2024 18:16

Agreed- was just about to come and say the same thing. The scene matters and is done so well.

Is this the old film with Donald Sutherland? Looks creepy!!

WhereIsMyLight · 08/07/2024 18:43

I think there are some films where sex scenes complete the story. Love Actually springs to mind.

Colin is ignored by women in the UK and travels to the US to be adored by 3 gorgeous women and have sex with all of them. The woman who is a carer for her brother, we see her start to engage in sex but the phone calls and she can’t disconnect from her life long enough to have sex with the guy she’s been in love with for ages. We obviously see the simulated sex scenes for Martin Freeman on the porn storyline but you don’t see them as a couple have sex because they are waiting until they are married, they are hesitant in their first kids to each other. We know Emma Thompson’s husband has the affair but we don’t know if it’s emotional or physical because we don’t see a sex scene, I think that’s the point. Emma Thompson will be wondering if it’s just physical or emotion behind too. You also never find out if she leaves him, raising that question of if the affair is enough to end the marriage because you don’t see the sex.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 08/07/2024 18:43

Since the next scene usually shows them in bed together, wouldn’t they be more likely to just get there first? Though they have put their knickers back on, so perhaps they have bed pollution issues like the dog in rented cottage thread?