Thread 1 Starmer: A New Hope

[DuncinToffee]

Please tread lightly on our dreams.

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I think they will be limited what they can do due the state of the economy,

I think that may be another secret weapon. There are a lot of relatively cheap measures that could make an enormous difference to the whole country. Getting behind FSM over summer for a start. And I'm sure the posters here could probably draw up a list of smaller things that could have a deep impact.

It's nice to be able to at least type that without feeling despondent that it would be dismissed out of hand by a Tory minister.

Back tax here, filched from my sister. Last year's. This year, no comparison.

Thanks for the new thread. So hopeful for the future. Can't pay cat tax though as they've all buggeted off.

It's best practice in Government to appoint those who have already been in the post as Shadow Minister.

I don't feel scared anymore. Huge sense of relief too. It's just so wonderful to have a Government that you know and trust will serve in accordance to the duties they abide to.

Yes, not restructuring the government, appointing people with some knowledge of the department - feels like we are going to see some actual government finally

And don't forget Sue Gray is in there to keep CS in line too. Looks like good planning all round. Pray it works out.

I think they'll amend the minimum wage as a quite quick change. I found this link to HR solicitors with some predictions I thought seemed likely from an employment standpoint https://www.lewissilkin.com/en/insights/new-deal-talking-points-how-quickly-can-labour-implement-its-new-deal-for-working-people I think areas of law is often the easiest to quick-change because the framework is in place (plus with KS background etc).

I am hopeful they'll find a way to fund fixing the buildings of schools and scrapping some of Gove's ridiculousness. I would be interested to see what are on everyone's wish lists!

Also keen to see this Great British Energy plan. Here's the link to what Starmer laid out as his First Steps For Change https://labour.org.uk/updates/stories/labours-first-steps-for-change/

I expected them to mostly be grammar school like KS.

Unlikely since it’s 48 years since the demise of grammar schools.

Can anyone see any of the Reform or independent MPs turning up in the Commons regularly or being hardworking constituency MPs? I can’t. The indies are one term wonders and it’s only a matter of (hopefully not much) time before the Reform guys disgrace themselves one by one.

@fabio12 here it is

I am sure Tice and Oakenshott will be living it up in Skegness and be a prominent presence for their constituents

@blossomtoes Grammar schooling is very much a system alive and kicking in the last 3 places I have lived!

I really hope they sort the pay award for the NHS that hasn't happened from April this year yet. I know they have said they will sit down with the doctors but the rest of us have had everything increase in April and still no word on the pay review body making a decision on that. That needs to change, making NHS workers wait till way past April for any pay increase. Hoping he sticks to his promise of not forgetting about care and NHS workers as he said in his speech outside Downing Street

I think they'll amend the minimum wage as a quite quick change.

Or enforce what we have ?. There are plenty of threads on MN about employers being creative with the rules.

See also: non-doms.

Just had an argument with dh, who was complaining that there was only one Scottish MP in Starmer's cabinet.

I pointed out that a) Starmer was being sensible and maintaining continuity, as far as possible, with his shadow cabinet and b) even though Douglas Alexander not that I like him is highly experienced (he was on my personal "bingo list" in 2015 ), Starmer and he were never MPs together, as Alexander lost his seat in 2015, which was when Starmer entered Parliament

So I'll give Starmer a "by" on this one.

As an aside, there have been no grammar schools in Scotland for nearly 50 years

Corbyn will continue to work hard for his constituents, and if he stands again next time, may well be re-elected, as for the others, you may well be right.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1809092437433811124.html

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@DuncinToffee you can see Isabel is ecstatic 🤣

I am quite worried for Russ and Jonathan, what are they going to spend their time doing now?

If anyone does want to engage with the sudden advocates for PR, then the knowledge that Ed Davey would have needed to have been in government after each of the last 5 General Elections and Thatcher would never have been PM, may be of use!

Someone I follow on Twitter has a great plan if you have a Reform candidate elected in your constituency, though I am sure it would also work for anyone who still has the likes of Braverman etc. Basically bombard them with letters, emails etc https://x.com/riotgrandma72/status/1809265719550362003?s=61&t=xKCXjKa1-S6Ks0nSd_LXGg

I know someone who's going to do that for our Labour MP. Newly elected and ousted the Tory incumbennt and has never been Labour.

Edit He has mental health problems

@placemats I think that’s different as they may be a good MP and should have a chance. I think Reform and the extreme right Tories have no interest in serving their constituents, they just want a platform for their extremist views.

Apparently Farage as an MEP was well known for not bothering to attend meetings, even though he was on the Fisheries Committee.

But not in the vast majority of the country.

I hadn’t really thought of Corbyn when I said indies @absquatulize. I’m sure he’ll continue his good work as a constituency MP. I’d be very surprised if he stood again - he’s made his point and he’ll be 80 at the next election.

It was nice to have a press conference without any dog whistles, no reference to foreign courts and no 3 word slogan across the bottom.

The guy for Leicester who deposed Ashworth seems very passionate actually and I think he will take his role seriously.