Taylor Swift .Generous donations for the UK food banks

[Moier]

I don't know anything about Taylor Swift.. couldn't name any of her songs.
But I've just read she's donated enough money to every food bank in every city she's played to last a year.

The hotels are paid when homeless/vulnerable people stay there - nobody expects them to be a charity.

Give over, what a very odd view to have. She has a talent and people have a choice to see her and she is under no obligation to donate anything.

I'm no TS fan and can only name shake it off- I think that's a song but she comes across well considering her fortune.

Look, less bad? Why does she look bad?

@Kartoffel54321 so do you suggest that the Edinburgh festival is cancelled going forward so rooms can be saved in case they are needed for the homeless.

I mean that lasts about 3 weeks doesn't it? Surely has more of an impact than 3 nights for TS?

In the short term we need to protect vulnerable people in the best way we can though.

Yes - but it's not the fault of Taylor Swift or her fans that this happened.
You can criticise the overall situation but since the solution isn't for no one to hold any events in Edinburgh, it's not really a TS issue.

Yes , however as a business they are entitled to sell their rooms to first come first served. Tourists booked the rooms before the council attempted to.

No one is obliged to buy tickets to see her show. Do you expect her to make the tickets a fiver? Obviously many people have the money for a ticket

I didn't suggest calling anything off, merely that the council still set aside a small allocation of rooms for vulnerable homeless people. A caring society would do that.

Is this a real comment or a joke? Someone booking a hotel room ≠ TS fans taking priority. I think some people can get do caught up in their own sense of righteous moral virtue signalling that they lose all sense of proportion.

well I saw Harry Styles last year. Did you all slag him off for donating as a PR exercise. He gave away a tiny 6.5 mill!

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/harry-styles-love-on-tour-ends-with-6-million-donated-to-charity-1234797670/

if you are hating on Taylor for this have a good look at yourself and why you hate a successful woman performing the songs she has written sooooooo much. Not a pretty look.

So you think the council should pay permanently for a set number of room on the off chance they are needed? If they weren't all needed then you'd also probably be one of the people moaning the council were wasting money on rooms which sat empty?

Well, good for her. If this helps families then I am all for it. She’s hardly going to rock up to Wembley with tickets at £10 each. I can’t see I agree with the code/allocation of tickets but that’s just me.

I also read she is extremely generous to her dancers and crew. They’ve all been gifted huge sums, apparently.

Her being there caused that particular issue. That alongside Edinburgh Council not caring.

Gosh I find the attitudes on display from some here very strange. She's made a lot of money and is donating a small part of it to charity. Do people really think charity donors should be interrogated for their motivation and financial position before the donation 'counts'. It doesn't really matter whether she's doing for credibility, or tax, or whatever. It's a good thing and many will benefit. It doesn't make her a 'good' or 'bad' person. I'm sure the charities benefiting are pleased. End of.

Well the problem here is that we don't have a caring society. We've had fourteen years of Tory government that has been characterised by cruelty and incompetence. People are vulnerable, suffering, struggling and starving because of that and none of those things are Taylor Swift's fault. She's not a UK citizen, austerity and Brexit and Johnson and Truss can't be pinned on her.

She can play her shows or not; she can make donations or not. What's the balance of cost and benefit? She brings the Eras to Edinburgh and the hotels book up like they do for any major event in the city. There is a cost there for vulnerable people because of a political climate that has worsened poverty and homelessness and refuses to address it. She boosts the economy, makes enormous donations that will feed vulnerable people for an entire year, she brings revenue and business and joy. But no, not every aspect of the impact she has is good. Does that mean she shouldn't play in Edinburgh? Would that be better? Should we cancel the festival too, should we stop any major artists from performing in the city? Would that be better? Can we weigh up the lack of temporary accommodation against the food bank donation and what's the conclusion when we do?

It's not really fair to expect Taylor Swift to solve all the political problems in a country before she tours. I'm sure she could do more, but it seems like she's chosen to do something pretty significant. I don't know how helpful it is to tear her down for that.

A question for all the naysayers on this thread:

When was the last time any of you donated the equivalent of the cost of a Taylor Swift concert ticket to a food bank?

Or as Taylor might say, if I were a man..

Some people love to drag women down

Talented woman champions female rights, treats her staff and fans well, donates to charities and still gets criticised? Ugh.

Jealousy

Taylor being in Edinburgh did NOT cause the crisis in accommodation- it's being running for a long time

But only now you care ?

She's selling a product that people want to pay any amount of money for - she could keep it all for herself but chooses to give money back.

Good for her

Never look a Swift horse in the mouth.

Can I just caveat this with, I'm not particularly a Taylor swift fan, i recognise her talent and some of her songs are very good. i have several friends and colleagues who went to the gig and said it was the best gig they have ever been to.
At the moment Foo fighters, green day, Pink Bruce Springsteen are ( or have been touring) and I haven't seen anyone commenting on how much their tours are making. Good on them all, they make a lot of people very happy. As someone has previously posted it's a fact of life at the moment that some people can easily afford tickets to any or all of these gigs and some people can't afford to feed or heat themselves that is a disgrace, at at least someone is recognising this albeit a very rich pop star and doing something small to help the situation unlike some people in our government who just want to insult those members of society who have fallen on hard times, let's focus our anger on them not Taylor Swift cause the people benefiting from the food banks are the winners.

To you maybe.

@Crunchymum she was meant to headline at Glastonbury 2020. She's probably still pissed off she missed out.

anyway, for the rest of it, the day I see this kind of criticism levelled at a man on MN...well, I won't hold my breath.