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Do you think Reform UK will be negatively impacted by the racist revelation?

156 replies

TigerOnTour · 28/06/2024 18:04

Do you think this will make their moderate supporters think again?

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OddityOddityOdd · 28/06/2024 20:10

So Sunak has reacted to and condemned these comments and rightly so. It is in stark contrast to his reaction to Mark Hester's comments about black women. Where was he then ? His wife is black, his two daughters are black but he stood by, took Hester's money and kept it. What message does that send to his family? I'm sorry he is genuinely hurt by yesterday's comments, but it seems as if the penny has finally dropped. What will he do now about the direction the Tory party is heading in? Will he put a stop to it?

NotAllowed · 28/06/2024 20:12

They've still got my vote!

Perfect28 · 28/06/2024 20:15

Is anyone surprised that reform are racist? That's literally their thing, no?

Perfect28 · 28/06/2024 20:15

@NotAllowed so I'm guessing you're a racist too then. Lovely.

BananaLambo · 28/06/2024 20:15

Everyone knows Reform is the natural home of racists. They know what they’re signing up for and this isn’t likely to change anything. If anything they’ll be cheering.

SoupDragon · 28/06/2024 20:16

Reform supporters already know they are a bunch of racist cunts. It won't change anything because they agree.

TheShellBeach · 28/06/2024 20:20

NotAllowed · 28/06/2024 20:12

They've still got my vote!

Why?

Sookafatwan · 28/06/2024 20:22

Because one thing from one man isnt going to change many peoples minds? There's candidates across the parties been getting pulled left right and centre for all manner of reasons lately but wont affect voting much.

NotAllowed · 28/06/2024 20:23

Perfect28 · 28/06/2024 20:15

@NotAllowed so I'm guessing you're a racist too then. Lovely.

Cry more x

Pedallleur · 28/06/2024 20:23

Let's not forget Boris and those tank topped bum boys! Oh that Boris, he's a one. Then Hester comes along with £10 million and wants Diane Abbot shot as now he hates all black women. Kemi stays quiet. Reform hates Badenoch, Patel,Braverman, Sunak and anyone non white, not heterosexual and most likely female unless they know their place.

qwerty14 · 28/06/2024 20:24

Turns out the man who made the remarks on Channel 4 is called Andrew Parker, he was not a party member but turned up unknown to anyone else and handed out leaflets.

He is an actor and his acting reel has him speaking in a much posher accent than the accent that he used on the day.

Channel 4 went undercover and found and talked to him and he said some veeery racist things about mosques being turned in to Weatherspons, Richie Sunaq etc.
He was lead character in the Chanel 4 expose and the Times put him on their front page.

He denied being an actor but it turns out has worked for Channel 4 in the past by a reeally strange and bizarre coincidence!

TaxiCabsAndBusyStreets · 28/06/2024 20:25

Sookafatwan · 28/06/2024 20:22

Because one thing from one man isnt going to change many peoples minds? There's candidates across the parties been getting pulled left right and centre for all manner of reasons lately but wont affect voting much.

There aren't candidates from all parties committing hate crimes, no.

NotAllowed · 28/06/2024 20:25

TheShellBeach · 28/06/2024 20:20

Why?

For the same reasons you're voting for who you want to vote for

TaxiCabsAndBusyStreets · 28/06/2024 20:26

qwerty14 · 28/06/2024 20:24

Turns out the man who made the remarks on Channel 4 is called Andrew Parker, he was not a party member but turned up unknown to anyone else and handed out leaflets.

He is an actor and his acting reel has him speaking in a much posher accent than the accent that he used on the day.

Channel 4 went undercover and found and talked to him and he said some veeery racist things about mosques being turned in to Weatherspons, Richie Sunaq etc.
He was lead character in the Chanel 4 expose and the Times put him on their front page.

He denied being an actor but it turns out has worked for Channel 4 in the past by a reeally strange and bizarre coincidence!

And what about George Jones, also featured in the footage? Not an actor. Established in Reform. Also indulging himself in hate speech. What's the made-up explanation for that?

Blackcats7 · 28/06/2024 20:35

It won’t change anything.
The people I know who are voting Deform are racists so why would it?
As for what was said about Sunak there was a horrible meme circulated on fb when he became PM about him turning number 10 into a corner shop. I saw it because my racist cousin (since unfriended) posted it and all his yob friends were laughing about it. I reported it to fb but of course the bots said it did not go against community standards as they always do.

BorgQueen · 28/06/2024 20:39

I’m no Farage fan and I certainly wont be voting Reform but if it’s true that the ‘racist cockney’ is actually a character actor then Channel 4 have acted appallingly and could be seen to be trying to affect the democratic process. They have either been duped or are complicit, neither option makes them look good.

Mrsjayy · 28/06/2024 20:43

HowardTJMoon · 28/06/2024 19:17

Not a chance. A hundred years ago they'd be voting for Oswald Moseley. Fifty years ago they'd be voting for Enoch Powell. Thirty years ago they'd be voting for Nick Griffin. The rhetoric's the same, the supporters are the same.

What happened to Nick griffin has he fallen off the face of the earth I've not seen him in years! Not that I've been particularly looking or missing him!

Sookafatwan · 28/06/2024 20:45

Since UKIP made far right politics mainstream, the likes of Griffin disappeared.

Mrsjayy · 28/06/2024 20:46

BorgQueen · 28/06/2024 20:39

I’m no Farage fan and I certainly wont be voting Reform but if it’s true that the ‘racist cockney’ is actually a character actor then Channel 4 have acted appallingly and could be seen to be trying to affect the democratic process. They have either been duped or are complicit, neither option makes them look good.

He's not a chatacter actor from ch4 nobody was duped to say those things or call Rishi sunack an "effin P####"

BananaLambo · 28/06/2024 20:47

NotAllowed · 28/06/2024 20:12

They've still got my vote!

Hiya Nigel!

Mrsjayy · 28/06/2024 20:47

Sookafatwan · 28/06/2024 20:45

Since UKIP made far right politics mainstream, the likes of Griffin disappeared.

Ah ok I remember he was a lawyer wasn't he trying to pretend he had morals.

samarrange · 28/06/2024 20:48

Mrsjayy · 28/06/2024 20:43

What happened to Nick griffin has he fallen off the face of the earth I've not seen him in years! Not that I've been particularly looking or missing him!

Interestingly, Nick Griffin backs the Palestinian cause. It seems that his old-fashioned full-on neo-Nazi anti-semitism outweighs his islamophobia. I find myself almost admiring his consistency. Most of the other far-right loons have temporarily parked their anti-semitism, at least in public, while Israel is, as they see it, doing a great job reducing the number of Muslims. But normal dog-whistle comments about "rootless cosmopolitans" will doubtless be resumed shortly.

Sarah2891 · 28/06/2024 20:48

I thought only racists voted for them anyway..

Like others said it will just attract scummy people.

TaxiCabsAndBusyStreets · 28/06/2024 20:48

BorgQueen · 28/06/2024 20:39

I’m no Farage fan and I certainly wont be voting Reform but if it’s true that the ‘racist cockney’ is actually a character actor then Channel 4 have acted appallingly and could be seen to be trying to affect the democratic process. They have either been duped or are complicit, neither option makes them look good.

It isn't true.

But the conspiracy theory is out there now and people are going to keep popping up and regurgitating it.

No, Channel 4 haven't faked it or been duped. Their investigative journalism is excellent. And the footage is of other Reform members who are also using hate speech (homophobic and racist). It can't be pinned on one man who happens to be an unemployed actor - guess what, they can be racist too. Just ask Lawrence Fox.

Farage and Reform supporters will push and push this 'actor' lie and avoid all questions about the other people featured in the expose for whom they can't figure out a cover story. There is no reason to believe that Parker is anything other than just one more racist Reform activist. There are plenty of them.

MrsSkylerWhite · 28/06/2024 20:49

Oh give over. There’s no such bloody thing as a moderate Reform voter.

As you well know.