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Do you think Reform UK will be negatively impacted by the racist revelation?

156 replies

TigerOnTour · 28/06/2024 18:04

Do you think this will make their moderate supporters think again?

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TaxiCabsAndBusyStreets · 28/06/2024 19:19

LakeTiticaca · 28/06/2024 19:18

It was a set up. The guy is a bit part actor.

That's not true.

HowardTJMoon · 28/06/2024 19:23

TaxiCabsAndBusyStreets · 28/06/2024 19:12

You think millions of people want to shoot immigrants and people of colour? Millions of people with that level of racial hatred? I know in the non-apology Parker issued he claimed it was normal 'chaps in the pub talk' but I've never heard anyone talk like that.

I've heard people talk like that. I don't think they'd actually shoot an immigrant but I do think they like to make their peers think they could.

I'm fairly old and I remember the virulent anti-black and anti- Pakistani of the 70s. All that's changed is that, these days, it's virulent anti-asylum seeker and/or anti-Muslim. The arguments made, the vehemence, the underlying threats of violence, the fears... they're all the same.

Simonjt · 28/06/2024 19:23

TaxiCabsAndBusyStreets · 28/06/2024 19:12

You think millions of people want to shoot immigrants and people of colour? Millions of people with that level of racial hatred? I know in the non-apology Parker issued he claimed it was normal 'chaps in the pub talk' but I've never heard anyone talk like that.

As a non-white person, racists wanting to shoot us wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest.

HowardTJMoon · 28/06/2024 19:23

LakeTiticaca · 28/06/2024 19:18

It was a set up. The guy is a bit part actor.

What a fascinating claim! How can we find out if it's true?

TheShellBeach · 28/06/2024 19:23

LakeTiticaca · 28/06/2024 19:18

It was a set up. The guy is a bit part actor.

Nonsense.

PandoraSox · 28/06/2024 19:24

Sookafatwan · 28/06/2024 18:15

Possibly rishi going for the sympathy vote

I am opposed to Sunak on every level, but this is a disgusting thing to say. You should be ashamed.

TaxiCabsAndBusyStreets · 28/06/2024 19:25

HowardTJMoon · 28/06/2024 19:23

What a fascinating claim! How can we find out if it's true?

We know it isn't - for a start, Parker wasn't the only person making racist and offensive remarks in the footage; there was also George Jones who they can't deny is a Reform member - he organises events for Farage.

Spirallingdownwards · 28/06/2024 19:25

It's hardly a revelation though is it?

cheezncrackers · 28/06/2024 19:26

I really hope so, but the kind of people who'd vote for Reform probably won't care.

Simonjt · 28/06/2024 19:27

Spirallingdownwards · 28/06/2024 19:25

It's hardly a revelation though is it?

There is an odd thing though where people who are outwardly and publicly racist, will repeatedly tell people they aren’t racist. Probably the lack of intelligence, so they think others are as thick as they are.

cupcaske123 · 28/06/2024 19:35

OooSorryDoctor · 28/06/2024 18:43

It’s been revealed that it was a set up and an actor though. I imagine it’s only going to reinforce Reform voters to vote Reform. It’s showing how scared the other parties are becoming with Reforms popularity

Has it? Do you have a link?

Rummikub · 28/06/2024 19:37

I think it'll attract more racist voters unfortunately. It was shocking to hear the recording.

InfoSecInTheCity · 28/06/2024 19:41

It isn't a revelation though is it?

Farage has always been a racist I just googled 'Farage racist' and there are 30 pages of news stories going back to him cozying up to the EDL in 2013.

If anyone is surprised at all by Reform party having strong links to racism then they've been walking around for 20 years with their eyes closed and fingers in their ears whenever Farage has been mentioned.

Anyone voting for Reform UK are making the decision to tolerate that, probably while saying things like 'I'm not a racist but......'

TooBigForMyBoots · 28/06/2024 19:44

Gorgonemilezola · 28/06/2024 18:56

Sadly no - while not all Reform supporters are racists, all racists are Reform supporters.

And, tbh, who's surprised that a Reform candidate is a racist arsehole?

Nigel Farage it seems.🙄

StormingNorman · 28/06/2024 19:44

No. Everybody knew they were racist anyway. Sadly, I think this will help win over those on the further right.

TooBigForMyBoots · 28/06/2024 19:53

The guy is a bit part actor, but he wasn't setting Reform up, he really does support them and want them to win. Anyway, bit part actors can be racists too, just look at Lozza Fox.

Ereyraa · 28/06/2024 19:53

No

samarrange · 28/06/2024 19:55

TaxiCabsAndBusyStreets · 28/06/2024 19:25

We know it isn't - for a start, Parker wasn't the only person making racist and offensive remarks in the footage; there was also George Jones who they can't deny is a Reform member - he organises events for Farage.

Have you got a link and/or timestamp for that? An online acquaintance is trying to convince me that this is all a setup by The Ackshually Racist Lefties and that Reform's official song is Kumbaya.

TaxiCabsAndBusyStreets · 28/06/2024 19:58

samarrange · 28/06/2024 19:55

Have you got a link and/or timestamp for that? An online acquaintance is trying to convince me that this is all a setup by The Ackshually Racist Lefties and that Reform's official song is Kumbaya.

The initial Channel 4 report identified George Jones and his position in Reform. He's the charmer referring to gay people as nonces and wetting himself in delight at the prospect of Reform replacing police with paramilitaries.

ilovesooty · 28/06/2024 19:59

TaxiCabsAndBusyStreets · 28/06/2024 18:44

I hate the Tories and think Rishi Sunak is awful as a politician and leader, but I felt deeply sympathetic to him when I read that slur. He doesn't deserve hate crimes, and it is terrible that his daughters have to experience that too. He deserves our sympathy, and Reform deserve our condemnation.

Reform are now employing cognitive dissonance - pretending it's a setup and a conspiracy because they would NEVER while at the same time, of course Reform are a racist party and we all know it. It's not hidden.

I agree. Sadly many Reform voters will applaud it. I have no time for the Tories or for Sunak but my sympathies are with him on this. I believe him when he said how hurt he was.

Sookafatwan · 28/06/2024 20:02

TBH its the sort of thing you could imagine Boris saying.

hellesbells · 28/06/2024 20:04

OooSorryDoctor · 28/06/2024 18:43

It’s been revealed that it was a set up and an actor though. I imagine it’s only going to reinforce Reform voters to vote Reform. It’s showing how scared the other parties are becoming with Reforms popularity

He is an actor but it's not a set up, you believe channel 4 hired someone from central casting and persuaded them to be filmed being a racist cunt🤣🤣

TaxiCabsAndBusyStreets · 28/06/2024 20:05

Sookafatwan · 28/06/2024 20:02

TBH its the sort of thing you could imagine Boris saying.

Boris made racist statements - the letterbox being one of the more notorious - but usually with some layer of vaguely plausible deniability. I can’t really imagine him referring to 'f**g p**s' or talking about shooting the residents of Bradford or denying oxygen to a person of colour in an ambulance.

ilovesooty · 28/06/2024 20:09

TaxiCabsAndBusyStreets · 28/06/2024 20:05

Boris made racist statements - the letterbox being one of the more notorious - but usually with some layer of vaguely plausible deniability. I can’t really imagine him referring to 'f**g p**s' or talking about shooting the residents of Bradford or denying oxygen to a person of colour in an ambulance.

In all fairness (and I loathe Johnson) I can't imagine him saying that either.

Starseeking · 28/06/2024 20:10

Of course not. Anyone who signs up for Reform knows exactly what they're supporting, these revelations are nothing new.

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