Thread 4 - Michael Mosley

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Body found and identified.

The Sun is reporting that the initial autopsy results are out and a cause of death might not be established due to condition of the body but that he hadn’t fallen.

Im just so bloody sad for this outcome. So much time missed out on now for them.
A good man gone. A young man in the grand scheme of things these days.
I just cant imagine the horror his poor wife is in. My dh is younger but we are together as long as them. Its just so bloody sad.
May he rest in peace.

Plus where I live in the south east. We need a booster to turn our WiFi to phone signal. No signal is very very common

Agreed. Many places in the UK don't have signal. We go to a RHS garden in Harrogate and we have no signal despite all being on different networks. It's hardly in the sticks!

Like many who've followed this from the start, we'll probably never know the full story about this whole awful episode. It was hard for anyone to understand what was going on and it's taught us how the media report anything or just make things up and then that gets taken as gospel and reposted everywhere. Like the whole feeling unwell thing, seems there was no truth in this. Also that he was aiming to head directly back to the accommodation, again it seems doubtful. There was talk of buses, going back to get his phone, again all misleading. If you strip away all the nonsense the media wrote, it was simply a case of a man goes for a walk without telling anyone where he's going. Unfortunately, it was more of a trek than a walk, it was at the hottest point of the day but beyond that we don't know if he got lost, we don't know where he was heading and crucially we don't know what he'd said to his wife and friends when he left, although he clearly didn't say he was going into that rocky peninsula.

Probably because she doesn't give a fuck about all the armchair detectives on mumsnet trying to pick holes in everything.

Dear God you've been banging this drum for days now, people have explained the reasons. Give it a rest.

the media report anything or just make things up and then that gets taken as gospel and reposted everywhere.

The media don't necessarily do their own investigations - they copy each other's stories. So if one paper prints something the others will pick it up and print it too.

Poor poor man. I saw the photo of his body, I wish I hadn't, I feel angry that it's being plastered all over twitter for people to stumble across. I feel tearful and disturbed having seen it, I can't even imagine what his family are going through. I hope they are being sheltered from it.

Haha you're not wrong, and ultimately it doesnt matter now anyway. It felt like it did at the time though, when there was still hope, and its human nature to try and make sense of things. And it's still in the Sun today trying to explain things, perhaps when the media let it go so will discussion on forums.

The Mirror had an unpixelated photo too. I mean obviously these things end up on social media but mainstream news sites is quite surprising!

Indeed. We live in a large Dorset village just a few miles from a conurbation and it's pot luck whether we can get a mobile signal or receive incoming calls. Upstairs is better than downstairs but sometimes we need to go outside and walk down the road a bit in order to get a reliable signal.

The media don't necessarily do their own investigations - they copy each other's stories. So if one paper prints something the others will pick it up and print it too.

A lot of investigation these days often seems to involve little more than the journalist scouring selected sites on the internet that might have content relevant to the topic being “investigated”. If they spot some juicy comment by a random it then get’s pretty much C&P’d verbatim into the report, along with hints that it’s the opinion on an expert..

It’s rife in the MSM when it comes to coverage of some subjects.

It is absolutely abhorrent from the journalists. I kindof understand when awareness raising is needed, in times of war and injustice, where the people who've died may want their death to mean something. But I just don't see the point of posting the body of a man who has taken a wrong turn and fallen ill, other than for clicks and voyeurism. I saw the body of my friend online after she was murdered, it's heartbreaking. You can't erase it.

Seriously? I hope it was from the distance and not close up?? Yesterday on Twitter I saw a video of them moving the body on a stretcher to a boat. It made me feel awful but he was in a body bag so you couldn't actually see anything. It still felt horrible realising that was the body of the energetic and charismatic man I'd seen so many times. Terribly sad.

It's from a distance but still more detail than anyone needs. I'm not going to describe it.

It wasnt so much the media copying and pasting, more the fact they were second guessing things. The mayor deserves a mention too as he was basically saying it made no sense to him and he spoke as if he hadn't spoken to the family at all, but again he was all over the media, perhaps just trying to understandably protect his interests and keep the island in a good light.

Apparently the CCTV shows him walking backwards and forwards along the fence looking for an entrance. I wish I didn't know this. He was so so so close to safety.

It may well have not made any difference whatever medical event was already underway or imminent was probably not reversible in a bar, it's not as though he was adjacent to a hospital and I doubt even on the Island itself there's much by way of urgent care.

Sorry. I just realised that telling all of you wasn't very sensitive. If it's upset me then it'll likely upset others.

Re the reporting:

We don’t know what the media was second guessing.

Remember that at first, it was only the Greek press there. So things may have literally got lost, or rather changed, in translation.

It’s also possible that at first MM’s wife or friends did tell someone that he’d said he felt unwell or tired, but later decided not to repeat that.

It’s also possible someone in the beach who saw him leave assumed that was the reason for him leaving and told a reporter.

There were several British reporters there at the time his body was found. While I generally despise the Daily Mail in particular, I do think the fact that MM and his wife were columnists for them means that they are going to treat this with more respect and attention to detail than they might otherwise.

Oh

Wow I didn't realise there was a photo of the body! Absolutely shocking, whoever put this in the media should be ashamed.

It is upsetting. If you look at the photos he could have walked round to the other side to reach the restaurant area but was probably too ill. Reaching people might not have helped though - he might have had a severe heart attack or heat stroke and people in the restaurant wouldn't have been able to save him. He seemed to die quickly (within 15 minutes of the CCTV footage) so he probably wouldn't have got the required medical assistance in time anyway. Everyone's saying if only someone saw him but perhaps it would have made no difference.
I have to say I'm finding all these details and photos quite upsetting. Usually when someone famous dies we get "They died peacefully at home surrounded by family". In this case we're getting minute by minute accounts. Upsetting details about him staggering around and collapsing. It's really hard not to picture all these distressing scenes in your mind.

The Times is paywalled but inews isn't (what was that about copying and pasting?!). How they know about following a trail of red and blue paint blobs I've no idea. But, yes, we now know what his wife meant by how he nearly made it.

https://inews.co.uk/news/michael-mosley-cctv-seconds-away-safety-3101731

The resort’s CCTV footage shows a figure walking back and forth for around five minutes along an outer fence in an attempt to find a gate, The Times reported.

It added that Dr Mosley had been following a trail of red and blue paint blobs on rocks that mark a footpath through the mountains from the village of Pedi.