Thread 3 - Michael Mosley missing after disappearing on holiday walk

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Continuing

Why bother when they have the speculators to cover those possibilities off for them ?

Again, did he do this 20 mile walk on the first morning of holidays after being taken to the beach by a group of friends with whom you were staying, in 40 degree heat and with no phone? No. That's not completely un-worrying behaviour.

I’ve referenced this before. I don’t tend to make baseless claims.

https://amp.theguardian.com/society/2016/may/22/michael-mosley-ecigarettes-miracle-menace-tv

This link refers to:
The rocky outcrop, which lies off the picturesque Agia Marina beach near a 15th century chapel, sits above a sprawling maze of tunnels that can rapidly fill up with seawater.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/06/08/michael-mosleys-wife-vows-she-wont-lose-hope-after-unbearab/

Someone said he had an Apple watch.

It's coming to the end of the day. I can't understand how they wouldn't have found him, if he had fallen on that walk

Perhaps they have. Just haven’t told the public yet.

The narrative certainly has changed from 'A child couldn't even get lost around here' to 'He could be in multiple dangerous scenarios'.

Well, whatever the truth of it, my heart is with his family. This must be gut wrenching.

Eek that abyss sounds scary.

It's scary that if you just go a little bit off that normal tourist path,

That You can step into what they call "the abyss", a system of deep tunnels.

They should put a warning on that road

Water taxis, beach trips (where you have to wade off the boat onto the beach) and phones really don’t mix well. Dh and I went on a boat trip in Greece just last week and left our phones in the hotel safe.

There was a similar case on another Greek island of a British man who was never found, the family suspected foul play
https://news.sky.com/story/missing-michael-mosley-son-of-man-who-disappeared-in-2019-urges-tv-doctors-family-to-keep-up-search-13149413
Really hoping there is some resolution in this case and he is safe and well.

@Justrelax what a load of nonsense.

You're being ridiculous!! It's perfectly normal for many people. He'd been with them all evening, all morning and left the group around 1pm for a walk. It's actually on the first day of a holiday that I'm most curious to go off and explore/see the area. He'd probably been at the beach for hours and wanted to look around. Perfectly normal.

I'm going to bet he didn't do it unequipped and in 40 degrees?

I've just walked 125 miles in a week completely solo, I understand the appeal of a walk, and I wouldn't want to stay on the beach all day either. I don't think an experienced walked does it in those conditions or without a map.

I agree, it’s not exactly common behaviour for the first day on your holiday with your partner and close friends. Perhaps there were tensions in the group or with MM and his wife.

I know this is a generalisation but for those accusing me of disrespect I’ve worked over the years with many men of a similar background. They’d be the first to say “silly old bugger I miscalculated that one didn’t I” from wherever they may be now. They’d certainly not be of the “I hope he’s sheltering under his umbrella, sat by an imaginary stream” persuasion and I won’t patronise as such either.

The last time i went on holiday with a group, we all split up and did our own thing.

People want to see different things on holiday.

His wife may have preferred laying on the beach.
He may have preferred walking around.

Speculation of the worst kind is totally unnecessary. How would you feel if you DH was missing and you were searching for him, to know that randomers who have never met you are focussing on the state of your relationship?

Thoughts and prayers with his family, and to all those who are helping in the search.

Did you guys see that firefighters are searching this place called the abyss now.

The local major said:

Mr Papakaloudoukas added: “There are also many troubling questions here. Why did he leave the beach and his wife and friends?

“Why did he not take his telephone ? From the CCTV footage it’s also clear he didn’t stop for a drink in Pedi or take a rest.

“He seemed to be walking very determinedly, surely it would have been better to stop and have a coffee or some water but no he decided to carry on.”

Sounds like a mental health crisis to me sadly.

@Justrelax

In 40 degree heat, with no phone? I don't think this is normal

Something went wrong. Something isn't normal. But going off alone and exploring populated areas, or stepping off the path for some reason aren't necessarily the decisions of an ill or upset person.

We don't know where he is. We don't know what happened before. We don't know what he was planning. We can't surmise anything about his mindset. All we know is that he left the group, on foot, with their knowledge, and that he walked past some CCTV cameras. There's no abnormal mindset there. Many of us might do the same, even if you think it's not 'normal'.

Can you speak for their wives, children and loved ones too?

Yep, it seems theres helicopters and drones scanning the mountain but clearly theyre finding nothing, so thoughts have turned back to the water and caves.

So thats one full day they've spend overland on the mountains and no sign, so whilst a snake bite, heart attack, broken leg are all totally possible, where is he? You can't hide up there as there's no tree cover. I'm sure all the main pathways have been covered today. Its not that wide an area. So where is he?? Under a rock somewhere? I can see why they're exploring underground caves but it seems unlikely he'd go down there of his own accord.

Why wouldn't he leave the beach. People are not stuck at the hip. He wanted to go foe a walk.

People also don't often take their phone with them if they are getting on a boat.

Also mobile phones only came into existence in the last 25 years.

A lot of older people that I know, wouldn't be stuck to their mobile phones.

They wouldn't bring them absolutely everywhere with them, like teenagers do