Thread 3 - Michael Mosley missing after disappearing on holiday walk

[ConesFones]

Continuing

I just don't think a happy, healthy person goes out with their friends, with whom they are staying, on their very first morning of holiday and then goes off alone (home or for a walk). So either he's not happy or he's not healthy. I think the minute he left he group, something had gone wrong. If he's not happy, he could well have gone in any direction and (devastatingly) ended his life in the sea. If he's not well, he could also have gone in any direction either through panic, delirium or in an attempt to get help. His wife will probably have told them a lot more than we can know about his state of mind.

Yeah - I get that! I wasn’t being 100% serious and certainly not critical of the authorities who seem like they are doing their utmost with both searching and giving information.

It was just when I read the new update about the ‘network of caves’ (slightly worrying) that ‘filled with seawater’(heart sank) that is known by locals as ‘the abyss’ (Jesus Christ you couldn’t make this up)

Well obviously not, as that entire blog post you link to is about how he took the wrong path and got lost.

I think there's a strong possibility he went missing deliberately and that his family knew that, hence the late missing persons report. They probably expected him back eventually, but knew why he'd gone. It could also explain why they didn't take any risks continuing the search overnight

Whether he's missing and safe or not now is another thing, and of course it doesn't help the anxiety and dread the family will be feeling.

Whatever the truth it, I can guarantee we only know a tiny part of it. They're not going to report on family issues or his MH, or at least you'd hope not.

@Justrelax

I'd do that. I'm pretty solitary sometimes, even in a group. My partner and friends understand. I'm allowed my independence and sometimes crave it.

So, whether you think it happens or not, it does.

It wasn't a late report. You don't report someone missing after two hours or whatever. Stop being ridiculous

Heatstroke can come on rapidly - can be as little as half an hour.

So someone happy and healthy deciding to walk a scenic way back might be in trouble quite rapidly.

And symptoms of heatstroke include confusion, disorientation and even hallucinations, so it is possible that if the heat go to him, he was making unusual decisions through no fault of his own at all.

I really thought he would be found by now.

Thought he could have been, and they might just not tell us for another couple of days. As the family may request to tell relatives first.

We don't know

It's becoming the most bizarre story. Started out as probably fallen off the cliff into the sea, hence divers exploring the bay.
Then last night according to new cctv footage, they were confident he was walking up a mountain path, hence search parties hitting the mountain's barren rocks and helicopters flying over.
Now they're saying he could be underground on a little island off the coast of agia marina. The whole thing beggars belief.

You keep saying this but what medical conditions? He had diabetes and fatty liver disease 10+ years ago but he resolved those.

You mention his heart and then go quiet.

I advise you to stop making baseless claims because if an inconvenient truth emerges you will have egg on your face.

It wasn’t a late missing persons report as the water taxi collected the rest of the party at 4pm and it would have taken a while to get back to the house. The police report was filed at 6.30pm. I think they couldn’t have filed the report much earlier!

Well I must be very unhappy and unhealthy then because I often break away from the group and go for little walks on my own. I get very bored on the beach, so while DH, the kids and our friends are on the beach I'll always go off for a little walk. I did this just last week. I love walking and exploring new places. I don't like sitting on a beach. Highly likely MM is the same. A keen hiker who either wanted to go home or wanted to see a bit of the area.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/c3gg78wn434o
This is interesting - shows the mountain path he probably took.

My dh always does this too. What a bonkers conclusion.

Re: mayor’s comments, is it possible he didn’t have any money? Relied on phone?

I thought the report was 7:30? In any case, he'd set off for a 30 min walk at 1:30 and was reported missing at 6 or 7:30.

Anyway, I think the authorities will have a good idea of what happened. We'll probably never know the full story.

This is quite small minded.. many many people are healthy and happy but need space from being sociable. I need regular breaks from people if I'm staying with them or them with me.

Now they're saying he could be underground on a little island off the coast of agia marina.

Do you have a link please ?

This is not beyond our comprehension.

What is it you are really trying to say? In fact, on second thoughts don’t answer that.

I agree, I might leave the beach early on my own too. But I wouldn't head into the mountains, without a map, in 40 degrees unless something was wrong.

I was going to post the same. The original FB post went up at 7:30 PM local time Wed and by 8:30 PM there were comments indicating that the wife had been out looking for him and that the police and coastguard had been notified. It had only been 6-7 hrs since he set off.

What makes you think he went missing deliberately? Genuinely curious.

I thought their holiday began on Monday so it wasn’t the first day?

Bollocks! DH is both happy and healthy but would get bored on the beach and decide to go for a walk.

He walked 20 miles alone last weekend, not because he is dying or on the brink suicide but as a training exercise for a big multi day group walk he has coming up.

We have very little in the way of concrete information the rest is just baseless speculation.

In 40 degree heat, with no phone? I don't think this is normal.