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Thread 48 - Sunak - Capsized on the Ship of Lies

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DuncinToffee · 06/06/2024 14:12

4 weeks to go

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Notonthestairs · 12/06/2024 11:14

Last time I referred to increase of poverty on a MN thread some wag decided to argue about the merits of different definitions of poverty. Deflection being more important than acknowledging the problem.

Gordon Brown writing in the Guardian

", 7.2 million of our fellow citizenssuffer from food insecurity, an increase of 2.5 million people since 2022. If you focus on those who face “very low food security”, the near destitute, need is up by 68% – 1.5 million more hungry people in just one year.

And there is a good reason why. Over three years, overall prices are up 20% and food prices are up 30%, but until this April benefit rates had gone up by only 13.5%. So even with this year’s uprating of 6.7%, benefits lag behind need, and ONS data shows that the most basic nutritional goods –sliced white bread and semi-skimmed milk – are up even more, by 35% and 49% respectively."

www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2024/jun/11/how-britain-became-a-food-bank-nation

It's disturbing and a sign of our dysfunction that these issues don't get enough media attention during an election campaign (or ever).

RafaistheKingofClay · 12/06/2024 11:18

The D Day thing would have been less of a clusterfuck if they weren’t going for the ‘patriotic’ reform vote. This wasn’t what their parents/grandparents/insert relatives of choice fought against the Nazis for. Disrespecting DDay veterans is a bit of a fuck up.

obviously reform’s position has been forced to change to ‘we shouldn’t have bothered fighting the Nazis’ so he may be a bit behind the curve with his target vote anyway.

DuncinToffee · 12/06/2024 11:19

The Times

Almost 1 in 10 reform candidates are facebook friends with British fascist leader gary raikes

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newnamethanks · 12/06/2024 11:22

I see him and think of the Charge of the Light Brigade. And/or Monty Python's Black Knight.

BIossomtoes · 12/06/2024 11:39

Farage is being suspiciously quiet at the moment. It’s making me a bit uneasy, like when the kids stop being noisy.

CassieMaddox · 12/06/2024 11:40

BIossomtoes · 12/06/2024 11:39

Farage is being suspiciously quiet at the moment. It’s making me a bit uneasy, like when the kids stop being noisy.

I read the Reform "contract" yesterday (put a thread in GE). It is terrifying. Drown everyone in noise but add a couple of points indicating an intent for arrester role for the military in public service.

Thingscanonlygetsunk · 12/06/2024 11:57

CassieMaddox · 12/06/2024 11:40

I read the Reform "contract" yesterday (put a thread in GE). It is terrifying. Drown everyone in noise but add a couple of points indicating an intent for arrester role for the military in public service.

Of course we have plenty of spare military for that kind of thing.
Probably the military have gone back to their knitting after deploying as doctors and nurses during the pandemic?

LittleBowSheep · 12/06/2024 12:02

I think Sunk knows exactly how important D-Day is to the whole country but it's obviously not important to him. Not when he's got TV interviews to rush home for where he can try and claim to be one of the people because he had a deprived childhood because his parents couldn't afford Sky TV.

medianewbie · 12/06/2024 12:13

Thingscanonlygetsunk · 12/06/2024 10:49

Winchester College has its own War Cloister to commemorate these things.

Bit embarrassing that ex students don't realise the value of these things.

https://www.winchestercollegeatwar.com/warcloister.aspx

Yes. It is the largest private War Memorial in Europe (I saw it in 2019 on a visit to 'WinColl' with an Old Wykehamist). I don't imagine Sunak's old alma mater are especially proud.

Lalgarh · 12/06/2024 12:15

LittleBowSheep · 12/06/2024 12:02

I think Sunk knows exactly how important D-Day is to the whole country but it's obviously not important to him. Not when he's got TV interviews to rush home for where he can try and claim to be one of the people because he had a deprived childhood because his parents couldn't afford Sky TV.

The Rest Is Politics podcast notes that Sunak is very fixated with his itinerary and seems not to be able to deal with overruns, or changes to plan.

Hence scurrying away and apparently being annoyed it "overran" when he starts that interview

SerendipityJane · 12/06/2024 12:19

Lalgarh · 12/06/2024 12:15

The Rest Is Politics podcast notes that Sunak is very fixated with his itinerary and seems not to be able to deal with overruns, or changes to plan.

Hence scurrying away and apparently being annoyed it "overran" when he starts that interview

Anyone else suspecting we are being prepared for a "shock" announcement that Rish! is actually ADHD (or OCD whatever is trending that day) and therefore knows what it is to struggle with mental health ?

Still 21 days to go ...

MrTiddlesTheCat · 12/06/2024 12:24

We've already had suggestions of neurodiversity. Nope, not my tribe.

SerendipityJane · 12/06/2024 12:29

MrTiddlesTheCat · 12/06/2024 12:24

We've already had suggestions of neurodiversity. Nope, not my tribe.

Well for it to look right it would need to be "forced out" in a "we didn't want to say because it would make you feel bad" way.

As I say, they are missing a trick here, as it would energise a lot of Tories to say "see, you don't need benefits after all".

Spandauer · 12/06/2024 12:36

LittleBowSheep · 12/06/2024 12:02

I think Sunk knows exactly how important D-Day is to the whole country but it's obviously not important to him. Not when he's got TV interviews to rush home for where he can try and claim to be one of the people because he had a deprived childhood because his parents couldn't afford Sky TV.

I was wondering about Sunak's siblings and what their memories of horrific childhood deprivation might be.

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Piggywaspushed · 12/06/2024 12:41

I panic about timings and am obsessive about punctuality.

But I wouldn't have had a problem as PM because I would have insisted on going to the whole blooming day! Owing to its international importance and stuff.

The idea it was 'French' rather chimes with the narrative that the ECHR is 'foreign'.

Small Island Mentality.

prettybird · 12/06/2024 12:55

Small Island Mentality.

As a Scot who shares this island, I won't accept this generic categorisation Hmm

Cheguevarahamster · 12/06/2024 12:57

Sorry just catching up. Sunak not having Sky is the worst thing he could come up with?
I'm not impressed.

In other related news. Andrea Jenkyns campaign leaflet is something else (ie not Tory)

She's taking the piss now.

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prettybird · 12/06/2024 13:06

Is that not illegal as at the very least, the small print should say printed on behalf of the Conservative Party? HmmConfused

and that's before noticing the elephant in the room that is Farage Hmm

Lalgarh · 12/06/2024 13:07

Piggywaspushed · 12/06/2024 12:41

I panic about timings and am obsessive about punctuality.

But I wouldn't have had a problem as PM because I would have insisted on going to the whole blooming day! Owing to its international importance and stuff.

The idea it was 'French' rather chimes with the narrative that the ECHR is 'foreign'.

Small Island Mentality.

"Seeing the Big Picture"; as it's known in the public sector

DuncinToffee · 12/06/2024 13:15

Penny Mordaunt boasting about the spread of "food pantries" in her constituency (rebranded food banks with a small membership charge).

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Notonthestairs · 12/06/2024 13:15

Cheguevarahamster · 12/06/2024 12:57

Sorry just catching up. Sunak not having Sky is the worst thing he could come up with?
I'm not impressed.

In other related news. Andrea Jenkyns campaign leaflet is something else (ie not Tory)

She's taking the piss now.

Jenkyns featuring Farage not once but twice on her campaign leaflets is pretty funny.
Once upon a time that would have her kicked out of the Conservatives party. Now they have to keep her on in the hope she picks up the Reform vote.

Largan missed a trick - rather than print Largan for Labour, he should have just added photos of Starmer to his leaflets.

Notonthestairs · 12/06/2024 13:17

DuncinToffee · 12/06/2024 13:15

Penny Mordaunt boasting about the spread of "food pantries" in her constituency (rebranded food banks with a small membership charge).

Food pantries sounding so much nicer than food banks.
A bit less food poverty, a bit more Mary Berry.

LittleBowSheep · 12/06/2024 13:31

Lalgarh · 12/06/2024 12:15

The Rest Is Politics podcast notes that Sunak is very fixated with his itinerary and seems not to be able to deal with overruns, or changes to plan.

Hence scurrying away and apparently being annoyed it "overran" when he starts that interview

Yes, because he's not used to having things not going his own way.

Notonthestairs · 12/06/2024 13:51

Is this not quite petty - especially since L/Ds made a donation to the charity?

Former Tory minister Kevin Foster quits membership of the Disabled Sailing Association charity after they let Sir Ed Davey campaign on one of their boats today

He is re-standing as Torbay's Conservative candidate and the Lib Dems were clearly there to send a message..

x.com/lucyjmcdaid/status/1800564594379043296?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

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