Thread 48 - Sunak - Capsized on the Ship of Lies

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Maybe Reforms complete hatred of anyone not male or white will be more reported...

Well quite...

Labours plan is to simplify the GRC process.

It should be remembered that anyone who wants a GRC will be given one, the success rate is 96%, with the other 4% failing due to admin.

Labour is going to put the GRC process out for consultation, that may mean changes, toughening up, easing or staying the same.

Tories though want to scare people, just like they lied about Labours tax plans.

I genuinely don't think The Times is a reliable source of information. They really are obsessed with the issue. Not quite sure why - think it is possibly because they now have Ditum and Freeman writing (lots) for them.

I honestly, given their ownership , do not expect them to be bias free on their presentation of the issue.

Ian Gribbin, the party's candidate in Bexhill and Battle, also wrote online that women were the "sponging gender" and should be "deprived of health care".

no daughters then and prob single! Also the NHS and prob private medicine employ a lot of women so lets hope he doesnt need treatment/surgery/consultation by a woman. Suspect he harbours similar views about anyone who isnt white, male and english

I'm trying to imagine the local Tory party members who thought I know this is the guy I want people to vote for in my Constituency as our representative to parliament.

The reason I don't think she will is my constituency is a Tory stronghold. Some defections to reform but probably not enough to keep her as MP for the area.

I suspect Braverman has no problem whatsoever with Mr Gribbin's views. She would probably like to make them mainstream Conservative policy, not excluding copying Hitler's ideas about the use of concentration camps.

I don't think Braverman would defect - she'd immediately lose access to the Conservative machinery and money.

She'll put herself forward as a candidate in the summer leadership election (they come round so quickly don't they?!). Still unlikely to win in my view but with sufficient votes to wangle herself another go at (shadow) Home Secretary under Patel. Jenrick will give her a run for her money though. And they'll share Opinion pieces for the Telegraph for the next 5 years.

Do you think Patel stands a chance of leadership? My money’s on Mordaunt if she survives the election. I don’t think we can make any predictions until we know who’s left on 5 July.

They're probably right that, for a time at least, some sections of the British public would have been better off if we had signed a Peace Treaty. The rich, for instance, and Mosley and his mates. Not people of the wrong religion or colour, not travellers, not people deemed mentally defective. Even those who thought they were better off would have started noticing pretty quickly that Hitler wasn't keeping to his treaty obligations and was ignoring anything they had to say on the subject.

Yes I think Patel stands a chance.

I'm not suggesting it's nailed on. Mordaunt, Patel, Cleverly and Badenoch all poll consistently well with Conservative members.

As you say it will depend on which MPs succeed in July. I have sort of assumed Braverman will be flushed out early doors and then will horse trade for position using her group of supporters as leverage - and I think she'd rather work with Patel as they are both willing to bring Farage in.

But isn't she far too centrist/wishy washy for current party? No amount of Thatcher hair cosplay can cover for that? Suppose it would depend if she reinvented herself totally.

Totally off topic but I just opened door to delivery person and I can smell chimney smoke. In June. SW London. This is a comment on the 💨🥶 weather rather than anything wider 😀

I went out earlier, vest jumper coat & boots it’s blinking cold I’m in south east London, had the heating on last night.

Looks like we're getting a winter election after all!

How many MPs will they need as backers to get onto the members ballot?

If for instance they need 25 MPs signatures and MPs (excepting of course Grant Shapps) can only support one MP, then there won't be many candidates!

Not really a great pull for the Tories in a CoL crisis.

"How many MPs will they need as backers to get onto the members ballot?

If for instance they need 25 MPs signatures and MPs (excepting of course Grant Shapps) can only support one MP, then there won't be many candidates!"

hehe! The threshold for nomination varies each leadership election. I doubt the threshold will be set at a 100 as it was last time around! I'm sure the 1922 Committee have a magic formula for these things.

Just listening to Bridget Phillipson on LBC. She did really well. Answered questions calmly and sensibly.

Probably going to be 3 each at this rate.

Very late check in but long time lurker and love the threads. You keep me informed.

Saw a reform poster in a window today in a prominent position. Make Britain Better Again 🙄

Have been leaflet dropping and door knocking. Been asked once about Brexit and once about single sex spaces and trans issues, mainly concerning ASD and young teenage girls. Both voting Labour. Labour supports the Cass review and is committed to single sex spaces.

This time next month there's going to be a new Government. A change we're all wanting.

The thing about Mordaunt is she has to appeal to the same membership that thought making Liz Truss PM was a good idea.

Sorry, wasn’t referring to your post at the top of the picture but the labour ad underneath it.

Cleverly had pulled out of R4PM at the last minute with no explanation. Good optics..