Michael Mosley missing after disappearing on holiday walk

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Just that really. Will he be found?

I can't believe that the 'elderly ' topic is still going, especially from @Oaktree55

As someone else said, at 35 you've considered geriatric if you're pregnant.

Considering that almost 70% of the population are overweight /obese, at ages younger than him, he's probably fitter than many younger people.

Age is only a guide to fitness and health.

People are more predisposed to certain conditions as they age but the vast majority (not all) are entirely lifestyle-related and preventable .

For someone like MM who's made his living out of keeping fit and helping others to do it, he's not your typical overweight, unfit 67 year old.

IMO he's had a very unlucky and unfortunate accident where h e has probably fallen into the sea, either through heatstroke or whatever was ailing him when he set off.

The question is then,

If the medical community decided that we are at a much higher risk of medical issues after 65,

Why are we expected to work full time until we are 67,68.

It doesn't make sense.

Well It makes sense in that they will work us as long as they can to squeeze every drop out of us.

But if they actually took the medical recommendations into consideration, retirement age should be 64, 65

thr man and his wife are clearly very intelligent, as well a medically trained. They both felt it was fine for him to do this 40 min walk, as did the people he was with.theirfriends.

This is a massive misconception, coming from a family of doctors. Doctors don't necessarily make better decisions about their own health. If anything, it's often riskier because they believe they can handle a situation based on their medical background. In private situations, doctors behave exactly as normal people regarding fitness, food, drugs, smoking, illness or injury. (During the pandemic, 100% of all doctors and dentists we know got themselves infected through socialising without wearing masks. Zero got it from work).

In this case, he was already feeling unwell and probably just wanted to go back to the villa as soon as possible. So the most human decision was to walk back on a path that was reasonably busy and not far in terms of distance, but would have been a challenge due to weather and terrain.

I agree. That’s a short walk, and referring to it as a hike implies something much more strenuous. Also by the sounds of things the kind of scenic route where you’d stop every so often to admire the view or enjoy the peace and quiet. I’m 56, currently in hot southern Spain - for walking and hiking on my own - and did a similar walk the other evening as a short stroll after a day of more strenuous hiking. And what I know of Dr Mosley he was a healthier weight and physically fitter than I am so no reason to think he was doing anything remotely risky or reckless.

Again re the pregnancy thing.

The term geriatric pregnancy as being over 35, is a term that was invented a long time ago.

Before newer technology and better medical interventions existed.

These terms should be updated.

I was just watching the kardashians show and in the most recent episode Courtney kardashian is happily pregnancy at 44. She got some help, but she had a healthy pregnancy.

I think the term geriatric pregnancy at 35 should be updated too

I think it's important to know if MM was familiar with the area and had walked the path before.

I actually wonder what is wrong with people , I really do. This thread is utterly utterly horrific. With all the self proclaimed experts deciding on what he’s done, how unreasonable it was, what’s likely happened, blaming him, his wife.

it’s sick.

"I think the term geriatric pregnancy at 35 should be updated too"

In the 90s, if you were 25 or over when you had your first pregnancy, you were termed an "elderly primigravida" by medics. Mind-bogglimg to think now!

Totally disagree.

I think this thread has been very interesting.

Its a current news story.
No one has said anything bad about the man.

Okay so now we also have to ignore the risks of pregnancy when you are older as some women have a healthy pregnancy.
Biology is real.

See the medics aren't always right!

They would probably call women geriatric at 25 if they could , 😀

Medical interventions and medical technology, regarding pregancy, has also improved vastly .

Do you agree? It's not always just to do with biology

He's not in his seventies. He's a fit 67 year old.

If the medical community decided that we are at a much higher risk of medical issues after 65, Why are we expected to work full time until we are 67,68

In many cases working keeps our bodies and brains fitter and healthier so there is that.

So why do so many people want to retire early then. ,:)

*If the medical community decided that we are at a much higher risk of medical issues after 65,

Why are we expected to work full time until we are 67,68.*

@Carly944 I don't know why you keep going on about this. It's fairly obvious that pension age isn't a medical decision, it's a financial one.

In some professions (e.g. airline pilots), retirement at 65 is compulsory. In other professions, people continue working into their 70s because they can't afford to retire.

Interventions mean risks do not necessarily lead to the bad outcomes of the past. But if you are older you are much more likely to need the interventions in the first place.

Has there been any update at all?

Bloody hell! You must never walk the length of yourself if you think a 2km walk is a trek!!!

Can we agree that his age will have increased the likelihood of him having become unwell or suffered a fall compared with someone younger HOWEVER it doesn’t follow that his age makes the decision to take a short walk alone inherently foolish or ill-advised.

Perhaps we can add the definition of trek into the mix of elderly and the prayer emoji

I assume someone who thinks it's 2km doesn't get out much

Just saying, there was a travel interview with pop star Dave Stewart in the Sunday papers recently where he talked about how he would get lost when rambling on exotic islands, once with Bob Dylan (you can see how that Uban Legends episode came about) and another time with Mick Jagger - he said Jagger in particular like to get away from tourists and go off the beaten track, but then you'd find yourself wondering how to pick up the trail that take you back...

Jagger is about 80 now so this could have happened when he was in his late 50s or 60s or later. He's mentally sharp and fit as a butcher's dog (albeit fairly underweight I'd hazard)... That said, sunstroke can really unexpectedly get to just about anyone, I'd have thought.

Agreed. It's not controversial to say that around your late 50s you notice your sense of balance isn't so good. That's why people balance on one leg etc to prevent deterioration. But 2km isn't even a dog walk.

Re: sunstroke, he was apparently using a purple umbrella, doesn’t make you immune from sun but does make you memorable on the path. Also, it means you only have one free hand.