Michael Mosley missing after disappearing on holiday walk

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Just that really. Will he be found?

Well having watched the video of the coast walk involved (but in reverse) I am completely mystified.

Even if he fell/suffered a stroke/heart attack it doesn't look like he'd fall into the water.
If he felt ill there are big rocks all along the way to sit and rest on.
There is nowhere on the path or next to it to hide a person who's fallen.

I can only conclude that he got safely to Pedi - then disappeared.

Adding my hope that he is being fed dolmades and tzatziki by some kindly Greek granny, and will emerge with an idea for a Mediterranean diet book!

Unlikely though.

He might have disappeared on purpose. I doubt it though, I think he’s fallen and is in the sea.

@Pelham678

In medical terms it means increased vulnerability to certain things. It's not ridiculous at all.

Not necessarily frail, but I don't think it's helpful to pretend that they are the same as someone in their 30s or 40s. They do need to be more careful.

I think anyone of any age can easily get heatstroke to be fair. It can also cause disorientation and confusion which can compound issues, so despite his medical background he may have just been caught out. Heart attacks/strokes are also more prevalent in hot conditions when dehydration can cause the blood to become more sticky and when the heart has to work harder.

I keep hoping some kindly yaiya has taken him in and is feeding him up and time has passed them by...

Me too. All the alternates are too sad to think about.

Poor guy.

I just had a bad feeling about it all there

The coastal walk to the nearest town was 20 minutes. The full walk back to the holiday home was 3.5 km, so likely over an hour.

I’m now wondering if he became overheated and hot. The sea was right there so he wandered over to splash his face and fell in. That would explain why falling from the path is unlikely - he scrambled across the rocks to get to the water in an attempt to cool down and then slipped.

The other thing that's difficult in a foreign country is the language barrier.

I got lost in Spain once. Out in the countryside.

I didn't have enough Spanish to ask for directions.

All my conveniences didn't work.

Like if I was lost in the UK. I would use the taxi app on my phone to call a taxi. My taxi app didn't work in Spain. I tried to download their local app and it wouldn't work.

The taxis on the road wouldn't stop for me.

If he got lost, and he had no phone on him, the language barrier might have added to him getting lost

goodnessme these posts.

thr man and his wife are clearly very intelligent, as well a medically trained. They both felt it was fine for him to do this 40 min walk, as did the people he was with.their friends.

as such, it is nothing to do with the walk or the heat guaranteed. Either he had a highly unexpected medical issue, or he himself has chosen a tragic action.

That's the way I'm thinking. Unless he walked up to the waters edge to get water to cool down and something happened there.

Thank you that explains the discrepancies in distance. So people are assuming he walked the shorter distance to the town. But the full distance was further.

I can't see anyone disappearing or accidentally falling into the sea on the section between the first beach and Pedi because it's a reasonably wide path that slopes gently to a shallow calm sea.

I don't think cold water shock would be a risk either because the sea there is 23 C now, so quite warm.

Re the taxi. The only way from that beach is either to walk, or take a water taxi. When I was there these were not very frequent. I loved the idea of going by boat from place to place, but in reality hardly ever did as it would have meant spending many hours in one remote location. Maybe that is what the rest of the party did, with all the beach gear etc.

Not sure re cafe/ bus stop sighting. Maybe if he did get to Pedi he then got back to town and set off somewhere else? Unlikely though if he was feeling unwell. The water is looking like the likeliest explanation now, I agree, though fervently hoping for a happier outcome.

Sometimes it’s the difference between the ambient heat and the water heat that can cause shock. But if he had a rucksack on and fell in whilst trying to cool down that would weigh him down.

But how is the age decided? Even within medicine, the term is not a discrete biological category – is it? – surely to some extent the age range for ‘elderly’ is socially defined as well.

That’s obviously not to say that aging isn’t relevant or that at 67 an individual will not be less vulnerable physically than they were at 47. But presumably it’s on a continuum rather than a discrete cut-off point?

Far too wound up by this thread! Highly intelligent people often do stupid things! It is not unexpected for people with heart disease to have medical events, rather extremely likely when they put unnecessary strain on themselves. I know we don’t know what happened yet but his behaviour was irresponsible given as you say he should be aware of these risks.

@BMW6 does the path, having followed route, undulate? It doesn’t look like it directly edges the sea? So any mishap in sea likely a purposeful dip to cool off gone awry?

Bus stop sighting - distinct from cafe CCTV sighting of man like him with woman I think ?

Did he go off to get meds via bus?

If feeling ill you’d likely borrow a mobile (?) Odd.

Even if she checked in on him later, got no reply and was concerned, she would have had to wait for the next water ‘taxi’, which runs to a timetable,(almost certainly infrequent), to be picked up from the beach. Unless they had all decided to walk back carting all their beach stuff.

Please just stop. Really . Just stop. You should be ashamed. It is hugely feasible it was nothing to do with the walk. And as such nothing irresponsible. Stop attacking him.

I won’t stop because the ignorance on this thread! If someone thinks twice next time a relative does something stupid then perhaps this whole tragedy won’t be so pointless.

Finding a lot of similarities to Nicola Bulley with this😔. I'm still hoping for a positive outcome but as time goes on.... 😔

He was walking at the worst time possible.

@AutumnLeaf1989 I also think of the Julian Sands tragedy which got relatively little publicity .