Michael Mosley missing after disappearing on holiday walk

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Just that really. Will he be found?

Sadly, what appears to be a very tragic accident could possibly have been avoided if he'd taken his phone. At least he'd be able to be located (assuming there was a signal.)

I wonder if he/ they knew he didn't have his phone?

Surely, he should have borrowed one for the walk even if he'd left his own behind?

Sorry but this is extreme speculation and most of it I find to be nonsensical
Perfectly normal for someone to leave a group early. When I go to the beach with DH and friends I often leave hours before them because I get bored and tired on the beach. They love the beach so I leave them to it. The walk is apparently only 1km/20 mins and often done by tourists so it's not like he ventured off on a 20km hike. No one would have been concerned about him doing the walk.
And how do you know they didn't try to call him?! I'm sure they did but he was tired. They probably assumed he was having a nap. They could easily have spent a few more hours on the beach, then gone for a late lunch or a drink. Six hours passes quickly on holiday.
Nothing about it seems suspicious to me.

Me too. I am amazed at the number of people weaving suspicion into this sad story. I'd imagine one reason for walking back is that there's hardly likely to be a bus every 10 minutes.

I wonder if it's telling that he headed back because he felt tired. When did you last "feel tired" on a beach, and what did you do about it? Fall asleep? The fact that he was trying to get back to where they were staying suggests that he wasn't feeling well.

If he fell in the sea, the trouble is that the sea moves things around. So although Symi is a tiny island, he might not even be on it any more. This would be a sad end for someone who did so much research into wellness and longevity, but there are worse ways to meet your fate than an accident on a happy holiday in the sunshine.

I do hope he is found sheltering somewhere e.g. in a cave. If he is conscious, he'd be aware of survival tips in those conditions. And he'd certainly have a tale to tell, later, bless him.

I can't imagine how his wife and family must be feeling.

They might have stayed with these friends before and been very familiar with the path back.

They love the beach so I leave them to it. The walk is apparently only 1km/20 mins and often done by tourists so it's not like he ventured off on a 20km hike

Yes perhaps but clearly he didn't do that or he'd be on the path still.

You don't know if he decided to do a 20K hike. Maybe that's exactly what he did do? You know- change of plan once he had set off?

No, it's a high-five

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@CaptainHaddocksPychotherapist if you Google you will find the original meaning was folded hands of an individual.

The last time that I lived with a boyfriend, we would often do something during the day, at the weekend.

Then we would go and do our own different things in the afternoon.

Then I wouldn't see him until that night when we were both at home. I wouldn't text him during the afternoon, so we wouldn't text each other for about 6-7 hours.

I wouldn't worry at all or think he was missing. Only if he didn't come back at night time, would I begin to check his whereabouts .

Adult couples do a lot of things separately.

Not raising the alarm for 7 hours seems right to me.

If I were with a relative in their late 60’s, knew had medical issues and it was pushing 40c and they weren’t used to the heat and they said they were tired (often cover up for not feeling well) and they had no phone I would escort them back or at v least say text us when you’re home.

@CaptainHaddocksPychotherapist Most people use it as prayer. Never seen anyone personally use it as high five

Good for you.

It depends what way you look at it.

A lot of people would see "late 60s" as being young.

Im 40, I go hiking with a group, and last time i was at the group, i was chatting to a man in his 70s who does mountain climbing every month.

To me, late 60s wouldn't seem old at all

We don't actually know that anyone knew he didn't have a phone at the time. They might have discovered it when returning. I don't like how Michael's wife and friends are being judged here.

Police and Mayor of Symi have said they think it’s very possible he has fallen and gone into the sea, possibly due to a heart attack. I hope this isn’t the case

This video shows the walk from Pedi to St Nicholas' beach (so walking the opposite way round to the way MM would have done it), starting 4.5 minutes in. It looks very steep in parts, which would be exhausting on a hot day, but most of it is set back from the cliff edge so it would be difficult to fall from the path to the sea. There is a bit at the Pedi end which is closer to the sea, but that bit of the path is flat - almost an extension of the beach. There are a few nooks and crannies along it which might offer a tiny bit of shade, I'm sure these will have been checked. So strange that he's just disappeared. I hope they find him today and he's OK.

Maybe heatstroke

Indeed. He seems very fit and healthy, and possibly an experienced hiker.

I have a friend who lives in Greece and goes on solo bike rides. He is in his fifties.

Round of applause

He wasn’t fit and healthy if you read up on him he had coronary artery disease and other medical episodes in the past.

No just common sense. His wife is supposedly a Doctor. Just amazed at the stupidity. It was v v hot.

Oh was he? I don't know much about him, to be fair. I had to Google him when i saw this.

Following this and hoping so much he is found safe. He seems a nice guy.
when I was around 24 my dh and I were in Spain, beach every day and he would go off for a short walk to buy a paper/juice. It was normal for him to leave his phone
one day He didn’t return for about 4 hours, I had every scenario through my head, looked up emergency contacts as was fearing the worst. He was fine but I’ve never let him forget that!
this is clearly a very different situation and feel terrible for his wife

@Oaktree55 you're jumping to conclusions and blaming people who are currently going through a nightmare.

We don't know all the facts. MM might have walked that route many times before. It's easy with hindsight to say what should have happened but life's not always like that.

But it's very hot everywhere in a lot of Europe right now.

People in their fifties and sixties go for walks. In the heat. It's normal.

I was just in Spain last week. I went to do a coastal hilly walk.

There were a huge amount of British tourists in their fifties and sixties and seventies walking out up with me around the coast and the hills in Spain

Late 60s, is not old.

And a lot of people have former medical conditions too.