Madeleine McCann new evidence - BREAKING NEWS

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A Senior German detective has told a court that investigators had found emails on a Hotmail account used by Christian Brueckner that linked him directly to the Madeleine McCann case.

However, the detective was unable to share details of the evidence as it was 'related to the killing' of Madeleine. Brueckner, the prime suspect, is currently on trial in Germany for unrelated sex crimes.

The thing with this case not adding up is that we're looking at a situation where a child vanished into thin air for 17 years, with no trace. That's so uncommon in itself. Whatever the explanation for this is, whatever happened to her and whoever was ultimately responsible, it's going to sound like a tall tale because all possibilities are incredibly unusual.

@MoonKiss I went into the video convinced the parents were innocent. I was not convinced by the end.

Apparently there are a lot of places you can hide a body in that area, sadly, including a lot of wells.

There are plenty of people who went missing and were never found. For example, Claudia Lawrence, Suzy Lamplugh, Andrew Gosden to name a few.

Richard Hall is a nut job conspiracy theorist who also believed that the Sandy Hook and Manchester Arena attack did not happen and everyone involved were actors.
He has been taken to court for these claims.

Embedded "confessions" are a pile of complete crap, sorry.
As I said in the post a while ago, there is a detective on Youtube who accuses the McCanns of killing Madeleine because of "embedded" words they use like when they said the claims were "a pile of rubbish" - he says that because they used that specific word, that Madeleine was disposed of by them like "rubbish" and this proves they dumped her body etc. It's a total pile of quackery of the highest order. He doesn't take into the account the phrases that are common to British people. There are many of these examples in his videos where he latches onto something very commonplace in English/British lingo and uses it as "proof" that the parents either killed Madeleine or covered up an accident that happened in the villa.

The documentary by Richard Hall is entertainment, nothing more.
And given his other "beliefs" I wouldn't take anything this man says as gospel.

I know someone who had the 'inside' in the Colin Stagg case, friends with the senior forensic psychologist who believed he'd done it- they said they knew 100% that he'd done it, and that everyone in the police knew he'd done it, it was just a question of time til it was made to stick.

Bet they don't tell that story at dinner parties now!

I've watched that video. Eye opening stuff

This, totally.

Let's just take stock, shall we? Firstly, the Met had oodles of cash to investigate and turned up nothing. I mean, not wishing to be insensitive, but you'd think their trawls might have at least uncovered a paedo ring or three, shedding some light on dark deeds, leaving no stone unturned. Guess not.

Secondly, we have the Portuguese police who did the usual thing, only it's usually British state protocol - namely, when you're under fire, and it's totally justified, simply victim blame. And they did. And it worked.
Much like South Yorkshire Police and the Hillsborough families, or the Contaminated Blood scandal, or the Post Office scandal or any family members who queries care at a nursing home - they simply turn it on you.
So for decades we had the idea put about that Kate and Gerry McCann had a hand in their daughter's death.
Only recently did I learn that the Portuguese police might have been feeling a bit snitty, a bit sensitive, on the issue because the Algarve at that time was experiencing a crime wave of hotel rooms being broken into, and oddly the cops were doing nothing much to stop it. Not sure if that's because they were on the take when it came to this little scheme - what do you think? And ultimately, if word gets about said crime wave, that it's easy to break into an apartment and get away with it, some paedo is likely to take this on board...

Truth takes a while to get its boots on.

I cannot fathom that if the parents were your average builder and supermarket checkout operator and didn’t have the means to hire a PR firm, the opinions on here would be the same if they had refused to answer questions in police interview, the highly regarded sniffer dogs had alerted in the same way, they’d gone out running the next day without going out searching themselves, they’d called Sky News before alerting the police and used donations from the search to pay off their mortgage (not sure if the last two were ever confirmed)

IIRC those particular dogs were the dogs that alerted in the Shannon Matthew’s case, and led to a report about the over reliance of cadaver dogs in missing persons cases being an issue if too much reliance was placed on them. I’m also fairly certain they weren’t out running the following day (although they did go running while in PdL) and they definitely didn’t contact Sky News before the police.

And tbh, nobody should be judging the actions of the family of a missing child (or adult) unless you’ve walked a mile in their shoes. And probably even if you had. Nobody knows what they’d do in that circumstance until it actually happens.

Yes, lots of people have gone missing and weren't found. That doesn't mean a child vanishing into thin air without a trace is anything other than very unusual. I know the area a bit and I wouldn't have said it was any better a place to hide a body than anywhere else, fwiw.

Of course you weren’t, that’s the whole point of the video.

Read the post a few up about how that video maker reckons the Manchester arena bombing didn’t happen, then tell me you still think he’s a reliable sort of chap.

Did the McCanns have a hire car at the time Madeleine vanished? No they didn’t, so how could they have got rid of her body with police crawling all over the resort?

Wasn't Kate McCann also not answering questions at that point on the advice of her legal representative?

Now I'm a solicitor myself, so I'm biased. I know what it looks like when people get themselves into a mess because they know better than their lawyers. But really, when you're being questioned about a serious crime in a country where you don't speak the language, following legal advice is just plain sensible!

That's a pretty stupid statement.

The parents were negligent. Stating a fact is not in any way indicative of intelligence levels. In fact, you could argue that a person who sticks to the known facts (e.g. their negligence) is exhibiting higher levels of intelligence than those who are making assumptions on what happened based on hearsay.

I'm sure I'll get flamed, but for reference, I had my children in the 90s and remember leaving them in our apartment (in Devon) which was at the end of a no through alley in a very touristy town, while we went and ate tapas at a restaurant in the same alley. Took baby monitor with us, as we were close enough for it to work, but I shudder when I read what happened to poor Madeleine. Could have been us....

Take no notice.
Poster is spouting rubbish.

@MoonKiss no, he covers some strange topics but the other guy Hyatt is reliable.

The difference is in a hotel or apartment complex there are lots of people all in the vicinity. Generally you would know if someone broke into your house..

I don't think it's so much the thinking it as the continually insisting on rehashing it, 17 years on, in a thread that's about developments in the case.

Now maybe I would say that, as I actually hold the opinion (and it's not a fact, it's a subjective take) that they were pretty negligent myself. But there's a difference between thinking this and droning on about it in any thread remotely related to the case.

We once left our 5 and 2 year old in a hotel room six floors up while we grabbed a bite to eat in the restaurant downstairs - if anyone would like to report me for neglect feel free. And while you’re at it report my parents who left me alone at night as an 8 year old in a b & b when though drove to a nearby town for dinner - they were gone hours! Terrible judgement in retrospect to say that no one ever did what the McCanns and their friends did is just utter rubbish.

I don't think anyone brought it up until the I evitable claim that leaving small children alone was the norm at the time. Obviously people are going to respond to that and point out that no, it was not generally the norm and that most would have considered it negligent at the time.

I certainly would not have mentioned it if the claim that it was the norm wasn't brought up.

Nobody has claimed nobody did it. What has been stated is that to do so was and is negligent.

Stating the same ‘facts’ for 17 years ad nauseam, in a thread about another aspect of the case, does not strike me as intelligent, no. Nor interesting. Nor having any point whatsoever.

I’ve never seen a thread on any aspect of the McCann case that did not wang on about negligence for 100 pages. HTH.

Nope, it was brought up before that on this thread- see page 1, post at 21.39 yesterday. It invariably is, and then also at great length thereafter.

It's not easy to find people, look at that poor tia girl hidden in her step father's (loosely) attack. Police had gone into the attack and couldn't find her. That was a contained site.

This was a cocked up investigation from the get go, shambolic and chaotic.
In a huge wide open space with open boarders to flit easily into mountains and different countries.