Thread 46 Sunak - don't rain on our parade

[DuncinToffee]

He called it, countdown to 4th July

Previous thread
www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5079131-thread-45-sunak-remove-one-letter-and-tell-his-future?page=40&reply=135513708

Does this work? @pickardje also posted the link to the Yes Minister sketch.

https://x.com/pickardje/status/1794479406766784548?s=46

This has really been worth waiting for.

It's just another back-of-a-fag-packet idea.

It's never going to happen because they're not going to win.

I'm out of the loop, so I apologise if this has already been explained earlier in the thread. Does anyone have any idea what Sunak's game is? Why has he called a general election a couple of weeks after the Tory bloodbath at the local elections? He said recently the election would take place in autumn.

The BBC, Guardian and CNN all say that he's calling it now because he thinks support for the Tories is going to plummet even further... but that doesn't really make sense, does it? If the polls suggest he's going to lose, why not push the election back as far as he can in the hope that Labour will be hit by some sort of scandal? The latest he can hold the election is January, I think - in political terms, that's decades away. Everything could change.

Plus, in the days since the election, he's said and done so many odd things that it feels like self-sabotage at this point. Does he just want to get it over with, get kicked out of office, and enjoy the summer? (Have I answered my own question?)

He's an idiot with the political skill of an elephant.

Well, I thought that headline was a joke..

What a profoundly shitty thing to add to young people, on top of all of the existing shitty shit that is positioned against young people. As a person who didn't have kids my mind is fucking blown.
At this point I am tempted ot believe the press control the gov.

A great dismantling of the National Service shit

https://x.com/edwinhayward/status/1794497744804909562

If anything it's proving less people are smoking because there's a hell of a lot less fag packet to plan on clearly

My DF did National Service and hated it. My Grandmother bought him out and as they were by no means rich, he must have hated it a lot for that to happen. Despite being a Tory voter for most of his life, there’s no way this would attract his vote or keep his vote.

That is a really good point. Covid has affected the mental well being of a lot of young people. Adding the worry of what this stupid idea would mean in reality is not going to help.

Anyway, it's gone down like a cup of cold sick. Sunk needs another day off to come up with more bat shit policies.

Nationa service had gone down well at Conservative home. (they hate Rishi though)https://conservativehome.com/2024/05/26/this-campaign-must-be-the-nadir-of-government-by-bunker/?utm_campaign=twitter&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitter

I think it's a very poor attempt at addressing that young people fee they can't get jobs and the hanging around with nothing to do. And declining MJ of youth.

Without actually stopping to think why those problems exist and what to do to prevent them in the first place.

I'd rather see the money spent on restarting sure start, replenishing public services and youth services.

They want "cure" headlines (what they think is a cure as I don't believe it is)

It's the Rwanda plan all over again

Spot on @itsgettingweird

I've decided that I'm not going to give the national service another thought, it's totally batshit and another mahoosive nail in the coffin for the Tories as I expect some people won't vote for them now 'just in case it does come in.'

Excited to see what's next though! 😵‍💫

So, we need a new bingo card with Rishis' grand ideas :

Flogging
corporal punishment
grammar schools
Borstal
fox hunting
restriction of abortion
EHRC gone obvs
Mass deportations
capital punishment
Build That Wall in the English Channel

It's probably irked them that they can't roll back on gay marriage and the recent divorce bill.

My dad is 84 and I'm pretty sure he managed to avoid national service. He will certainly think it is an awful stupid idea.

https://x.com/mattholehouse/status/1794474262872445280

Posted this elsewhere but it is interesting as he has some details.

Someone mentions NI - military service certainly won't happen there...

The last thing charities who support older people want it is to organise a whole load of "volunteers" at a weekend. This plan looks like it's not even been discussed with voluntary organisations.

I have an idea - Let’s get the retired in as volunteers to supervise & teach it - mandatory of course.

It strikes me, on reflection, as an idea he picked up in Wetherspoons, surrounded by hung over veterans...

I also wondered at whether it is partly in response to the fact more women who would be carers are off with back and neck issues (thanks to the understaffed/funded NHS) so community jobs they usually do gratis are starting to show signs of needing volunteers. https://fortune.com/europe/2024/05/13/british-women-back-neck-pain-mental-health-troubles-long-term-sickness-out-of-work/

Picture to show my relief that the Tories are on the way out!

Sir Michael Take agrees 😄

From poet Brian Bilston.
(I think you could add almost anything to the list!)

Re: Nat Service announcement - Sunak's 'advisors' really are cobbling together old 'Yes Prime Minister', 'In The Thick Of It' and 'Veep' scripts. There's no other explanation. 🤷‍♀️

In yer dreams! I really hope Sunak keeps these wonderful ideas coming, a few more of them and Tory voters will be an endangered species.

I wish they would reboot Yes Minister. They've had so much new material to draw on in recent years.

My dh was in the TA for a long time and he loved it and was paid. It was his choice though.
This seems to be a kind of ' throw it out there and see if it sticks ' kind of policy which probably wouldn't happen even if they did get back in !