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Who are you going to vote for?

258 replies

Darkmodelight · 22/05/2024 19:07

Me - Labour.

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Fluffyhoglets · 23/05/2024 01:06

BringMeSunshineAllDayLong · 22/05/2024 23:13

On our knees. Bloody hell I am definitely already on my knees. You must live in a bubble to not have noticed how much poorer most of us are.

Exactly.
If by bringing the country to its knees Angrymum means reduced waiting lists, reduced child poverty, very little rough sleeping, investment in state education, no rehetoric about sick/disabled people, no fear of losing the NHS etc etc. Then I can't bloody wait to be on our knees again!

Darkmodelight · 23/05/2024 05:56

TBH im no huge fan of Starmer either but our local Labour MP is great and is very involved.

I have always voted Labour but I do wish there was a viable third (or fourth) option. If does feel like voting for the less bad party at the moment but that said, less bad than the Tories by a long shot.

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flyingwingsabove · 23/05/2024 06:26

I don’t know. I am in Scotland. Can’t bring myself to vote Tory, Labour or SNP. Awful. All of them.

FatOaf · 23/05/2024 06:35

Labour, unless stopthetories.vote suggests voting LibDem has a better chance of unseating our truly contemptible Conservative MP.

Darkmodelight · 23/05/2024 07:26

I guess there will be a lot of strategic voting in this election

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newnamethanks · 23/05/2024 07:41

Liberal because Labour can't win here. Tory majority 900 votes. Hoping to wave goodbye to them.

JustAnotherPoster00 · 23/05/2024 07:43

hcee19 · 22/05/2024 23:27

I agree with with everything you say...l have no idea who to vote for....Labour gives money away like sweets, l feel immigration will get worse, the country will be worse than it is now....remember Gorden Brown sold off all our gold reserves, Tony Blair , how many were killed for weapons of mass destruction ?...Liam Byrne, leaving a note for his successor, 'Good luck, there's no money money left"
I don't believe anything any of them say, that's for all parties. The money wasted by the Tories for the failure of HS2, bringing in the stupid smart motorways, nothing smart about them, at all...the list goes on...
What a sad state of affairs they all are..

Every single right wing trope about Labour, I'm sure Reform will be grateful for your vote 🤯

MyWhoHa · 23/05/2024 07:43

A donkey could be Labour candidate where I live so I don't really have a choice. I don't feel as if my vote counts.

llamarammma · 23/05/2024 07:56

disaggregate · 22/05/2024 23:01

I'm laughing at the idea that he wouldn't be better than Truss/Johnson/Sunak. I mean today - Sunak goes out in the pouring rain, announces Starmer has no plan (while not even checking the weather forecast) to the sounds of Labour's landslide theme tune - cut to Starmer who details his plan (and doesn't have water dripping down his suit). It was yet another piece of hilarious political ineptitude on the part of the Tories.
I really don't think the party that lied about Brexit and dragged the country through hell with it, oversaw the Windrush scandal, allowed sewage be pumped into the waterways, allowed their mates get rich on PPE that didn't actually function, has seen a massive increase in child poverty - and so on - are fit to govern, and I imagine come 5th July Starmer will be on his way to Downing Street.

Well said!

Look at Starmer’s background. Solid.

llamarammma · 23/05/2024 07:59

MyWhoHa · 23/05/2024 07:43

A donkey could be Labour candidate where I live so I don't really have a choice. I don't feel as if my vote counts.

Same here but for Tories. Been a blue zone forever.

But I will still be voting for Labour.

ArchaeoSpy · 23/05/2024 08:02

For our current prime minister and long may he reign.

newnamethanks · 23/05/2024 08:08

Error. Rain. Buy him an umbrella.

GentlemanJohnny · 23/05/2024 08:26

Tactically, Lib Dem and hope Labour doesn't pull off it usual trick here and split the anti-Tory vote so letting the Tories in (again).

Angrymum22 · 23/05/2024 09:29

BringMeSunshineAllDayLong · 22/05/2024 23:13

On our knees. Bloody hell I am definitely already on my knees. You must live in a bubble to not have noticed how much poorer most of us are.

It’s all very subjective. As someone who has lived through 6 decades, experience tells me that the publics optimism regarding Labour is very short sighted.
They will be facing the same problems as the current
government with the same funds available to them. But then they left the country in a mess after their last spell in government so maybe it’s time they were held accountable.
I remember when Blair et al made their triumphant entrance. The country was in a sound economical position. They sold off our gold reserves, created the new NHS contracts that have led to a lot of the problems, GP contracts, GDP contracts and the private funding of new hospital and GP surgeries which left many health authorities in massive dept. All these were Labour. Then they walked away.
Most of the NHS contracts are legislation and part of complex acts. To reverse/change them takes years of lobbying. with the dental act/contract the government have been piloting alternative contracts since it became apparent, only months in to the new contract, that it was going to fail. But none of the pilot schemes were approved because all cost far more money than the budget allowed. Labours original changes gave us the equivalent of “Poundshop” dentistry. GPS fared no better.
The public have very short memories and attention spans. We are still recovering from the economic impact of the pandemic. The government paid out billions of pounds to subsidise our incomes. It may be years before the country completely recovers.

My other big worry is the global instability at the moment. Labour are not fans of nuclear deterrents. I would like to see a detailed policy re the Middle East and Ukraine. How they are going to deal with the US if Trump is elected again.
And finally are they going to try and re enter the EU? What are the implications and how much will it cost us? They have been very quiet about this and it may be their trump card in getting the centre vote.

disaggregate · 23/05/2024 09:46

Angrymum22 · 23/05/2024 09:29

It’s all very subjective. As someone who has lived through 6 decades, experience tells me that the publics optimism regarding Labour is very short sighted.
They will be facing the same problems as the current
government with the same funds available to them. But then they left the country in a mess after their last spell in government so maybe it’s time they were held accountable.
I remember when Blair et al made their triumphant entrance. The country was in a sound economical position. They sold off our gold reserves, created the new NHS contracts that have led to a lot of the problems, GP contracts, GDP contracts and the private funding of new hospital and GP surgeries which left many health authorities in massive dept. All these were Labour. Then they walked away.
Most of the NHS contracts are legislation and part of complex acts. To reverse/change them takes years of lobbying. with the dental act/contract the government have been piloting alternative contracts since it became apparent, only months in to the new contract, that it was going to fail. But none of the pilot schemes were approved because all cost far more money than the budget allowed. Labours original changes gave us the equivalent of “Poundshop” dentistry. GPS fared no better.
The public have very short memories and attention spans. We are still recovering from the economic impact of the pandemic. The government paid out billions of pounds to subsidise our incomes. It may be years before the country completely recovers.

My other big worry is the global instability at the moment. Labour are not fans of nuclear deterrents. I would like to see a detailed policy re the Middle East and Ukraine. How they are going to deal with the US if Trump is elected again.
And finally are they going to try and re enter the EU? What are the implications and how much will it cost us? They have been very quiet about this and it may be their trump card in getting the centre vote.

The government paid out billions of pounds to subsidise our incomes.
And millions to their friends for unusable PPE.

Life was so much better under Labour than it has been under the Tories. The Tories have had 14 years and they have made a complete mess of everything and left the country in tatters - you can't blame Labour for that

Jason118 · 23/05/2024 09:48

Lots of suggestions regarding how 'subjective' things are. Things are only subjective if you ignore facts. The current government have made everything worse, from local services being strangled by reduced funding, to inadequate policing of privatised utilities, via huge wastage of public money on panic contracts to mates during covid, with a side order of shelving planning for a pandemic. These are not subjective, these are facts and for that reason anyone considering voting conservative really need to take a hard look at themselves, and then vote for whoever will get rid of them.

cavalier · 23/05/2024 16:47

Can’t stand Labour or Starmer so will have to be conservative

greengreyblue · 23/05/2024 17:16

Would be so nice to have an honest, fair leader. Starmer fits the bill.

Darkmodelight · 24/05/2024 04:40

I think voting for the leader of a party doesn’t really make much difference anyway because as we’ve seen with the tories they can change like the wind.

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greengreyblue · 24/05/2024 06:31

It helps but I align more with Labour anyway and have voted for them in the past.

TheFTrain · 24/05/2024 07:27

Lib Dem.

Bululu · 24/05/2024 07:56

Tories. I am quite happy they have called an election. They will loose but the mess is coming is not going to be on me. I am focusing in getting the hell out of here while we can.

Tothemanorborne · 24/05/2024 07:59

I’m Scottish. I’ll vote for anyone to try to stop the woefully inadequate SNP getting in again.

K0OLA1D · 24/05/2024 10:04

Bululu · 24/05/2024 07:56

Tories. I am quite happy they have called an election. They will loose but the mess is coming is not going to be on me. I am focusing in getting the hell out of here while we can.

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The mess is already on you if you voted theses bellends in for the past 14 years

Angrymum22 · 25/05/2024 00:42

The original mess was down to the last Labour government. That resulted in Austerity. The current mess is a combination of Brexit ( for which the public are responsible for) and closely followed by a global pandemic the likes of which no one has lived through. And to add insult to injury we have the global unrest due to Ukraine and Palestine. I seriously think that many mumsnetters stopped following current affairs when the first lockdown started.
The current PM made sure that many of you were able to maintain your lifestyles through the huge handouts. If they hadn’t this country would have been seriously f*#ked.
How have people forgotten so quickly? The entertainment and hospitality industry has still not recovered fully, so many small businesses were lost.

I suppose if you are not a business owner then you have no idea just how difficult 2020/21 was. You all sat at home being paid. Businesses rely on their workforce to make money, if they are not working no money is made. The government paid your wages not the business.

I worry about how little the general public understands simple economics.

I would love to see a hung parliament with a coalition government. Maybe while the politicians are locking horns the civil service can quietly go about running the country.

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