Do you think Michael Jackson was guilty?

[InnocentOrGuilty]

Of the sexual abuse of boys.
I'm interested in a poll.
G = you think he was definitely guilty
I = you think he was innocent
(Stemming from a debate with DH last night!)

I also understand it. You would choose to do what’s best for your child, rather than try to hold someone like him publicly accountable. I mean look at this thread, a small minority still protesting his innocence, one even wrote they couldn’t remember much about the harrowing finding neverland documentary and didn’t think it proved much if anything, how anyone can listen to abuse of little children and think meh is beyond me, how much of a fan do you need to be, to take that view.

What did I just say in my last post? Nonsense! You are full of 💩! Michael didn't pay off any witnesses.

And if you saw that your relentless pursuit of justice was damaging your child and they begged you to stop - you wouldn’t stop even then?

It’s not about justice it’s about what is best for your child. Or rather the concept of justice wrt a child - ie what is just and fair - must of necessity centre on the well-being of the child.

That was a typo by me.

I wrote the wrong name. I meant Wade robson

I meant to write Wade robson.

Wade Robson testified as a defense witness.

And Wade robsons mother said that Jackson paid off her mortgage

He did pay off witnesses sligeacheire. Wade robson was a defense witness. Wade robsons mother said that he paid off her house loan at the time of the trial.

The parents are just as bad. They were superman's who sold their kids to jacko.

I'll never forget seeing one of the mothers in leaving neverland talk about her time with Jackson.

She was saying "oh that time was great, he brought us to concerts, he sent cars to pick us up, he took us away on trips" .

She was saying this after her child had claimed that Jackson had raped him.

She Was still talking about the money, concerns and good times with a glow in her eyes. She's disgusting

What about all the many children who didn’t get a payout and didn’t disclose their abuse until much later

How about all of you and everyone else who believes he is guilty campain for every person who was ever found guilty of any crimes all around the world to have all their cases reviewed?

Weird how all the liars were boys, strange none of the liars were girls…..

Because we are innocent until proven guilty, whether you like it or not.

A friend of mine that I'd known from schooldays was subject to localised bullying and threats where we both were living. Called a gay paedo, weirdo etc. it ruined his mental health and was utterly unfounded. He was just a quiet man who didn't appear to do much. Police got involved in the end, silencing the accusers.

If he had been banned from life because of unproven accusations, how would that have been fair?

No he didn’t

Boys, girls and grown adults, male and female slept in Michael's bed. I posted about this earlier, if you read it. Nicole Richie was one such girl, which I posted a link to previously.

https://abda28ca93.clvaw-cdnwnd.com/d1b61b233e54c5da71bee79e8f07456b/200011357-f3b270088f/Nicole%20Richie.png

"Any court proceedings are inevitably unbalanced by putting kids against someone with the best legal team money can buy."

See!? More BS. Michael was asset rich, but cash poor. And really, when it comes to finances, Michael was being prosecuted by the State of California with a bottomless well of funds. You make it sound like it was just a kid against a mob of expensive lawyers.

Michael Jackson and his family are the real victims here.

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sdut-us-michael-jackson-trial-062809-2009jun28-story.html

MJ wasent a quiet man who was bullied though was he ?
He was an odd ball he oenly admitted to sleeping with children ,he said it was a beautiful thing ,even after he had been accused of abusing children and was "acquitted " he still carried on doing it ,that is very worrying behaviour

I’m trying very hard not to go to the MJ the musical because it is no the real deal but almost changing my mind because of this thread.
Send me a pm if you want to go together.

And yet he only abused little boys. A bit like how every rapist doesn’t rape every woman he meets, Jackson didn’t abuse every child. And I fully believe that he purposefully didn’t touch the famous one so that they’d stick up for him should a non-famous boy accuse him.
And it worked

Tell me, do you think Saville is a victim?

I’ll ask again
If it was Barry down the road who worked in Asda (but was REALLY GOOD at his job) who didn’t have much of a childhood and befriended pretty little boys in the local area, had them dress in Asda uniforms, sleep over in his bedroom, had a playground in his back garden, owned picture books full of young naked boys and was twice charged with child sexual abuse - would you be saying he was innocent too?

And why did Jackson act so very much like a pedophile if he wasn’t one?

If you wanna celebrate a nonce then good for you, I hope you and the pedophile apologists have a good time

Did your friend have sleepover with little boys, have accusations from 8 little boys, was he charged twice with child sex crimes, did he pay off his accusers, have a playground in his backyard to attract the company of children and walk around holding hands with little boys, who he switched up for another new little boy once the last one got too old?

Honestly like, like sorry your hero was a pedophile but who are you all helping by telling yourself “It must be a lie because I like his songs”

No, YOUR posts are nonsense and you link to bogus ‘sources’

Im just pointing out what you don’t like to hear. MJ fans who believe the world’s most obvious pedophile over abused children, because they’re a fan of the pedophile’s music (because let’s face it it’s nothing else and there’s a reason you won’t answer the Barry analogy) - I’m not gonna stop calling those people nonce lovers. Because they are.

Neither was he a genius and famous unique artist since when he was a child

You missed the point

I think Corey Feldman's slow
realisation that the "Michael Jackson" he knew and the one that less famous children knew we're very different is something to take note of here.

It must have been very hard for him to confront that, but being a victim of child sexual abuse himself, he can tell the victims of Michael Jackson aren't lying.

If FBI are bogus source we can’t believe a thing

So you’re saying that genius and artists can’t be pedophiles? They’re allowed to behave like pedophiles and have many accusers with compelling stories, endless pictures of naked children in their home but because they’re an artist it is impossible for them to actually BE the pedophile they cosplay as.

Only regular Joes can be nonces.

Have I got that right?

Ian Watkins can’t have been a pedophile then, he was a genius after all