Page 12 | Do you think Michael Jackson was guilty?

InnocentOrGuilty · 2024-05-12T08:48:28+00:00

Of the sexual abuse of boys. I'm interested in a poll. G = you think he was definitely guilty I = you think he was innocent (Stemming from a debate with DH last night!)

LightDrizzle · 13/05/2024 02:52

Guilty

LightsOnSparklingTowers · 13/05/2024 02:59

Guilty. Obviously.

MercyDulb0ttle · 13/05/2024 03:21

Guilty as sin. Repulsive man. His defenders are morons.

YaMuvva · 13/05/2024 03:31

SLIGEACHEIRE · 13/05/2024 02:25

If you were in any way educated, or intelligent, for that matter, you'd know that name Wacko Jacko is highly offensive, but that's the kind of ignorance I don't expect a simpleton like you to understand or care about.

Michael Jackson was lynched by the media. Try growing a brain, think for yourself and realise you've been manipulated. Michael Jackson was one of the most powerful people in the music industry, he owned half of Sony.

Yes, he was naive, but he tried to see the good in the world and helped out any way he could.

He was investigated by the FBI for over a decade, by police and social services. They forensically scoured his computers, his ranch, his life, every single facet of his life. What did they find? Nothing!

He was the most famous person on the planet, but, in time, I think he's going to become the most famous person of injustice.

His accusers are proven liars, every one of them. All motivated by, and sued for money. Whenever it has gone to court, they've lost, every time, because they deal with facts, not tabloid BS.

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They didn’t find nothing, at all.

Can you show us proof all 8 accusers told lies on all their stories please?

Use your brain.

Why do you think he acted so very much like a pedophile if he wasn’t one? And can you answer the Barry from Asda analogy please?

HonorGold · 13/05/2024 03:31

MrsMurphyIWish · 12/05/2024 11:02

This is an interesting comment about “grooming” the fans. I was a big Lost Prophets fan but when Ian Hawkins was convicted, I deleted all their albums and threw out my T-shirts. I still listen to MJ from time to time and my kids know the lyrics to his songs too. I have wondered in the past why I can listen to his music and able to distance the man from his music, but not with IH.

Edit: I meant quite rightly we shouldn’t listen to IH but why is it so different for MJ?

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As a PP said, you have to separate the artist from their art and I agree or we would never see certain art, listen to certain music ever again. However, I agree with you and feel the same, and I think it is because what IH did was absolutely the most abhorrent, sickening thing ever. And that he was found guilty and admitted it.

for MJ, yes I think he was probably guilty, but there is ‘doubt’ as never found guilty, and we don’t know the extent of the abuse. So I wonder if he had been convicted would I still listen to his music…?* *

YaMuvva · 13/05/2024 03:33

SLIGEACHEIRE · 13/05/2024 02:49

You're full of $h1t, and you've proven you've got an agenda against Michael Jackson. If he had that kind of ₱0®N, he would have been arrested on the spot there and then, charged straight away.

The same goes goes for the phantom accurate description by JC of Michael's anatomy. Disgusting accusations, that don't deserve any merit or hold any truth. If it were true, again, Michael would have been arrested straight away. Jordy Chandler could have testified in 2005, but refused to. Why? His father created the whole fake narrative, back in 1993, tried to blackmail Michael. Michael wouldn't pay and it led to the civil lawsuit. Which is a whole other thing. If your kid was abused you'd want that person behind bars. They got their money and ran. They could have had both, but as dirt as they were, they didn't want an innocent man going to jail. They got what they was, money.

Some people are either stupid, ignorant or just want to perpetuate the lie that Michael Jackson was guilty.

https://twitter.com/MJonTheBrain/status/1777921334192025617

That's the real Michael Jackson.

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He WAS arrested and charged

Twice

I imagine Jordy didn’t testify because he’d already been attacked by pedophile apologists like you once already and didn’t want to relive the horrific trauma he endured. Can you blame him? Do you understand what abuse does to victims?

That link is hilarious - Jimmy Saville did a lot of charity work so I guess you think he’s innocent too?

Buffypaws · 13/05/2024 03:36

Guilty as fuck

Chaoseverywhere · 13/05/2024 03:41

I like to think innocent. I still feel there’s a chance he didn’t do anything wrong and was not interested in sex at all. Reading all these comments I can see how naive that sounds but to me nothing has ever convinced me that he is guilty.

catlady7 · 13/05/2024 03:51

Chaoseverywhere · 13/05/2024 03:41

I like to think innocent. I still feel there’s a chance he didn’t do anything wrong and was not interested in sex at all. Reading all these comments I can see how naive that sounds but to me nothing has ever convinced me that he is guilty.

My exact thoughts.

FixItUpChappie · 13/05/2024 04:26

G
I can't stand hearing his music personally

Tourmalines · 13/05/2024 04:38

I would never have let my son near a mile of him . Disgusting pedo

Sushilover14 · 13/05/2024 04:47

I don’t think he did it. I think he was stigmatised for being somewhat ‘odd’. But I think he regressed more into behaving like a child and so therefore looked to the company of children. I suppose it is hard for the masses to get, but this doesn’t automatically make him a SO.

Ger1atricMillennial · 13/05/2024 05:02

The issue with MJ is that it is a big leap from the image of thriller to image people have in their head when they think of pedophiles.

He told us that he crossed children's personal boundaries i.e. slept in a bed with them. He described himself that he would systematically remove a child from the protection of their family i.e. taking them on tour with him.

Even if you take criminal accusations out of it, he still behaved inappropriately around children. He used them as playthings rather than treating them as people.

toepick · 13/05/2024 06:04

And here come the paedophile apologists

I feel sorry for your kids

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 13/05/2024 06:12

When a poster says they were abused and everyone rightly encourages them to report it, I hope they all check the perpetrator could sing / dance first- apparently
it makes a difference.

Polishedshoesalways · 13/05/2024 06:20

Yes. Grown men don’t sleep in bed with other peoples children … not ever.

RampantKrampus · 13/05/2024 06:20

YaMuvva · 13/05/2024 03:33

He WAS arrested and charged

Twice

I imagine Jordy didn’t testify because he’d already been attacked by pedophile apologists like you once already and didn’t want to relive the horrific trauma he endured. Can you blame him? Do you understand what abuse does to victims?

That link is hilarious - Jimmy Saville did a lot of charity work so I guess you think he’s innocent too?

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It’s much harder to believe bad people can do good things, than good people can do bad things. We accept that from time to time inherently good people will do bad things/make mistakes. Bad people doing good things is a much more uncomfortable thought. But in reality, inherently bad people do LOTS of good things. It’s how they get away with it.

Springtime111 · 13/05/2024 06:28

Carly944 · 12/05/2024 23:06

As Lisa Marie presley said "who didn't have a bad childhood".

I had a very bad childhood. I still don't hang around with 10 year old girls, or sleep in beds with them

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The OP asked our individual opinions. I gave mine. You have yours. They differ.

Beefcurtains79 · 13/05/2024 06:29

Yet lots of posters on here would rather believe that several different children are lying, along with Jackson’s housekeeper.
Just not Jackson.

Springtime111 · 13/05/2024 06:33

YaMuvva · 12/05/2024 23:24

He certainly didn’t have a normal childhood as most of us are not global superstars at the age of 5.

However unless a normal 5yo behaves like a pedophile, why would he act his childhood out in this world with only little boys of a certain and not have the company of adults who perhaps didn’t have a childhood either? Also as an adult he should have known that sleeping in beds with little boys was inappropriate, even if we take the benefit of the doubt that he was a manchild.

So in the context of 8 or 9 boys making very credible allegations of sexual abuse, his open grooming of little boys, the two child sex abuse charges, his penchant for having books of naked boys, sleeping in the bed of little boys - do you still think ‘not having a normal childhood’ cancels out the red flags of all of these?

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The OP asked for our opinion. My opinion is as stated.

toepick · 13/05/2024 06:48

It's much harder to believe bad people can do good things

This absolutely

CarnDûm · 13/05/2024 07:07

Mirabai · 12/05/2024 20:30

There speaks someone who has never listened to any of the victims’ testimony or sifted through the detailed list of all the sordid stuff the police found in his room and his pc searches - endless porn and photos of young boys.

The horrifying thing is that it was clear he had considered trying to adopt kids.

Newsflash: he was an adult with adult sexual tastes and the little boy lost persona was simply a ruse to groom you and his victims. How anyone was fooled was beyond me.

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In regards, to his pc searches, someome posted a wiki link with info about the FBI report, a part of it says:

The FBI found nothing incriminating on the drives, and the computer history contained no record of accessing or searching for illegal material.

Surely, if they have found anything like as you are saying then he would have been in deep trouble just for that?

Having said that the report was 600 pages and they only released a 659 or pages, I wonder what info they kept back from the public.

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InnocentOrGuilty · 13/05/2024 07:51

I did ask for opinions and everyone is entitled to one.
Clearly this issue divides people.

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cultjarteriaky · 13/05/2024 08:00

YaMuvva · 12/05/2024 23:35

When people say he was abused in childhood we need to remember this is coming from a renowned liar who claimed in 2004 that he had never had plastic surgery.

Reminder: he looked like this.

I don’t believe a word that comes out his mouth

Now a days you can watch people transforming their faces in front of you. It is called make up

CarnDûm · 13/05/2024 08:23

CarnDûm · 13/05/2024 07:07

In regards, to his pc searches, someome posted a wiki link with info about the FBI report, a part of it says:

The FBI found nothing incriminating on the drives, and the computer history contained no record of accessing or searching for illegal material.

Surely, if they have found anything like as you are saying then he would have been in deep trouble just for that?

Having said that the report was 600 pages and they only released a 659 or pages, I wonder what info they kept back from the public.

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'359 or so pages' i meant to say of it, a typo there.