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Thread 44 Sunak: Hung parliament and Rishful thinking.

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DuncinToffee · 08/05/2024 09:00

prevoius thread
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5066068-thread-43-sunak-seriously-scapegoating?page=40&reply=135107360

Thread 44 Sunak: Hung parliament and Rishful thinking.
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tobee · 15/05/2024 13:26

DuncinToffee · 15/05/2024 12:33

https://x.com/Josh_Self_/status/1790647957756301347

NEW: Jacob Rees-Mogg's multi-point plan for Conservative election victory

— Election pact with Reform
— Nigel Farage to be appointed as minister
— Richard Tice and Ben Habib to be candidates
— Boris Johnson to return as foreign secretary

Thought that was going to be a spoof!!

SerendipityJane · 15/05/2024 13:27

cardibach · 15/05/2024 13:03

Is he actually, certifiably, insane?

Count Binface should sue for plagiarism.

tobee · 15/05/2024 13:44

Didn't someone on here just recently express the worry that JRM had been quiet ?

tobee · 15/05/2024 15:04

Just seen about Slovakia. God who'd be a politician or public figure?

tobee · 15/05/2024 15:09

Ds says Slovak PM is pro Putin.

IClaudine · 15/05/2024 15:11

I wonder if it is just a lone nutter or something more organised?

fabio12 · 15/05/2024 15:11

We need so much reform.

I know this is going to sound very sexist but women tend to be in prison for MH issues and poverty. They don't tend to harm other people.

Why can't they release more women early and move the men who are raping, being violent and murdering people to their cells?

Edited to say, obviously not to mix with the gen pop of female prisons.

tobee · 15/05/2024 15:12

IClaudine · 15/05/2024 15:11

I wonder if it is just a lone nutter or something more organised?

Indeed

dontcallmelen · 15/05/2024 16:02

tobee · 15/05/2024 13:44

Didn't someone on here just recently express the worry that JRM had been quiet ?

The medication must be wearing off.

SerendipityJane · 15/05/2024 16:05

I know this is going to sound very sexist but women tend to be in prison for MH issues and poverty. They don't tend to harm other people.

Our whole penal system needs reform (won't ever get it though).

I mean is it for ? Ask 10 people will 10 10 different answers.

Why do we lock up people for non violent crimes, in order to keep violent offenders on the streets ?
By what metric is a penal system successful or not ? (This is a perennial bug bear of mine. If you can't define success, how can you define failure).

pointythings · 15/05/2024 16:07

I think a good start would be to look at countries with lower recidivism rates. But of course crime is so intertwined with socioeconomic issues that you end up needing to restructure everything.

Zonder · 15/05/2024 16:08

Does anyone keep getting this ad on this thread? I don't really want to click on it but it's a bit odd! I don't get it on any other thread.

Thread 44 Sunak: Hung parliament and Rishful thinking.
SerendipityJane · 15/05/2024 16:17

pointythings · 15/05/2024 16:07

I think a good start would be to look at countries with lower recidivism rates. But of course crime is so intertwined with socioeconomic issues that you end up needing to restructure everything.

The problem is, under the neocon agenda everything is a resource to have value extracted. Criminal justice being no exception.

Once you start off down that path, then you need a system which delivers you free labour. Look at the US system to see where we are headed.

Everything is a resource. Shelter. Water. Education. Health. Security. Entertainment. Sustenance. Transport. Ecology. Everything

prettybird · 15/05/2024 16:19

Zonder · 15/05/2024 16:08

Does anyone keep getting this ad on this thread? I don't really want to click on it but it's a bit odd! I don't get it on any other thread.

It's been reported on Site Stuff - both on the "Banner Ad" thread which has tumbleweed with MN ignoring the issues raised and/or gaslighting us as to the new amount of advertising being "normal" on Social Media platforms and in a standalone thread.

MN replied on the standalone thread and asked people to click through to identify its URL. Some brave people have done so: it leads to a fake BBC website and then to a scam investment site.

MN claim to have blocked it and are looking at where it came from - but it would appear unsuccessfully, as it's still popping up.

It's even appeared on the Domestic Abuse topic/threads ShockAngry

Zonder · 15/05/2024 16:32

Wow thanks for that @prettybird

Piggywaspushed · 15/05/2024 16:40

fabio12 · 15/05/2024 15:11

We need so much reform.

I know this is going to sound very sexist but women tend to be in prison for MH issues and poverty. They don't tend to harm other people.

Why can't they release more women early and move the men who are raping, being violent and murdering people to their cells?

Edited to say, obviously not to mix with the gen pop of female prisons.

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And didn't they recently say that want to lock up all the shoplifters??

fabio12 · 15/05/2024 16:45

Zonder · 15/05/2024 16:08

Does anyone keep getting this ad on this thread? I don't really want to click on it but it's a bit odd! I don't get it on any other thread.

I haven't had that one but a few weeks ago I had a preteen lying on a bed covered in heart stickers - I meant to report it at the time as it was clearly fishing for peadophiles on a parenting forum. I know we have a large amount of male posters and I wonder if it's skewing the advertising? I think I took a screen shot but something happened and I lost track of it. I could still send it to them but I've not had it since, and certainly would never click on it if asked!

Piggywaspushed · 15/05/2024 16:46

pointythings · 15/05/2024 09:17

This is pearl clutching backlashery. How is it a good idea to not teach about contraception until age 13 when many girls these days start periods at 9? And that's aside from the internal inconsistencies highlighted by @fabio12 .

That fag packet they used must have been tiny.

Surely it's all about the culture wars gender stuff but with other stuff added to make it look as if it isn't....

Notonthestairs · 15/05/2024 16:47

"And didn't they recently say that want to lock up all the shoplifters??"

with what Magistrate army? They Mags open caseload is around 379,000.

fabio12 · 15/05/2024 16:48

I really think we should be keeping violent and sex offenders under lock and key. People nicking food and electricity to feed families should be given other ways to show penance, because in reality all they need is the social net we had before this sack of turds came in.

Notonthestairs · 15/05/2024 16:48

Bloody hell fabio12 - that advert sounds grim.
The Starmer ad is disconcerting enough.

tobee · 15/05/2024 16:49

Zonder · 15/05/2024 16:08

Does anyone keep getting this ad on this thread? I don't really want to click on it but it's a bit odd! I don't get it on any other thread.

I don't get ads on this website. But wtf!

DuncinToffee · 15/05/2024 16:52

I don't get ads either but saw the tread in site stuff and thought MN reply was bizarre, send us the URL Hmm

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DuncinToffee · 15/05/2024 16:54

tobee · 15/05/2024 15:09

Ds says Slovak PM is pro Putin.

He seems to have pro Russia and anti Ukraine views. Still a scary incident and I hope he is ok, apparently he is in a critical condition

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