Thread 42 Sunak : Ping Pong with the Enemies of the People

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I don't understand the voucher thing. I thought the UK state already issued vouchers which could be exchanged for goods or services. They're printed by the Royal Mint and look a bit like this:

Something to cheer us up:

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Humza Yousah has resigned. Will stay until a successor has been voted in.

I wonder what the implications for Richie are?

I sincerely hope banks aren't using blockchain technology. Might be time to go back to cash then.

When it was my thing, the #1 use cases were regulatory and legal with a lot of interest from Australia. Imagine being in a room with 100 lawyers.

The fact remains that Rishi Sunak has in effect placed a bar on asylum in the U.K. by his act last week. I don't think Ireland can claim we are s safe country because of it.

The Irish will have to make returns elsewhere than NI. They can legislate but because of the soft border it would be useless. And they can't legislate to return to the mainland unless the UK agrees. And no asylum seeker will want to come here owing to the legislative bar that exists. Ireland to make the return would become complicit in use of the Rwanda policy. They will know.

I note that the Hone Office have just decided not to meet with the Irish Justice Sec.

@SerendipityJane - tbh I think the trajectory is clear. You will need to have an account and consent to tracked payments for benefits. This would be cruel but not unlawful.

Emily Maitlis

Humza Yousaf resigns admitting he underestimated
“ the hurt and upset “ that sacking the Greeen leaders would cause. At the root of this chaos - one SNP voice tells me “ is that no one thinks these things through. Not him. Not those around him. No one in Bute House “ plays chess “ -

17 years of the SNP. Unless the Scottish Tories vote of no confidence in the SNP is successful there are 2 more years of this lot until we can vote.

I must say Alex Salmond is enjoying his revenge. Best served cold eh!

Truthfully a lot better and lot cleverer than the party he left behind.

Anyone noticed the uptick in Islamophobia in the past few days? I am sure it is partly politically motivated by those who hate Khan. Tough on them, he is going to win.

Maybe. I think things are more febrile because of Gaza. This is going to be a thing when the overall local elections are run since you would assume maybe that the Labour position might not be liked elsewhere ie is the George Galloway effect a thing?

Yes it is very noticeable.

A few threads on private school VAT have popped uo again as well.

https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/1784930270052753598?t=wBSkJrC2n8KCtKYLFR_Xeg&s=19

Looks like the Evening Standard, whose owner was ennobled by Boris Johnson, is about to endorse the Conservative candidate for London mayor, Susan Hall.

Big front page splash attacking Khan on crime, plus multiple anti-Khan pieces, including from Johnson's former comms director

He is an absolutely odious Toad (about whom there were also years of rumours that he cannot keep his hands to himself).
But he was literally bouncing on his toes during an interview this morning.
He must be having such a good day, & St Nicola et al such a bad year.

Will make very little difference to the (free) news that mortgage rates are on the up again.

That's the mortgage rate increases Liz Truss refuses to recognise

That's a good point. We arent stopping them - we are just a stop on the way.

And considering they keep saying "they should stay where they are" it's a bit rich them claiming we are fine for them not to stay in this safe country.

Bit late in the day to start backing a losing horse. Not sure that’s going to save her.

And what would you bet vouchers for?

We use ds pip for all sorts. Sometimes it's thermal socks or reinforced socks which cost more than a pack from primark. Some goes towards saving for a decent wheelchair.
Some gets use for the extra heating and water bills, medical equipment or his prescriptions.
We've brought a mouse for his computer that he can use that can adjust sensitivity because he has a tremor.

We've paid for private physio and OT because the nhs can't provide one when we need it.

But also than the actually pretty nasty party he founded...

@IClaudine thank you for your kindness, I’m trying to stem my rising tide of panic made worse by catching the news at lunchtime.
itsgettingweird I’m the same use mine towards the extra heating costs, occasional taxis & physio appointments mainly as have to wait here for months for a NHS appointment, they really are now inhabiting a swamp of nastiness & bile yet Cameron & Sunak swan around in helicopters costing us millions that’s without the other billions they have spaffed with wanton abandon, I’m another one that dearly hopes they will become total nonentities after the next election.
total fuckwits & the evening standard can fuck off as well.

The ROI might not have the means to return migrants so i think the EU will get involved...

Should Sunak allow these people to walk all over the CTA and, in effect, do what Russia did to Finland by deliberately using migration as a weapon, then who knows where it will end?

Sunak is trying to blackmail the EU into accepting returns from the UK, i don't see that happening somehow & you can bet your last euro that he will challenge Labour on this.

They can provide vouchers for a PA. Great if that PA can cash it in. I provide all that for ds. We spend a fortune on specialist equipment to try and help him be able to cook (he still can't unsupervised).

I get they'll be people who claim MH and use it for alcohol or something (as accused) and not working. But a) the alcohol is probably self medicating and b) I expect most in receipt do use it as intended and this is another policy which will harm the most and the most vulnerable.

PIP costs the state far less than it would if we didn't get it!

@Piggywaspushed - I don't like the SNP! But I wouldn't have done what they did: it was an poor job of doing him in. They should have trounced him fair and square instead of their cloak and dagger stuff.

Yeah agreed, but Alba are really awful.

I also think Yousaf is a nice man. Weak leadership but a decent man.

Benefits reform the same day as discussions on assisted dying.

They aren't even trying to hide it now.