Meet the Other Phone. Protection built in.

Meet the Other Phone.
Protection built in.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Chat

Join the discussion and chat with other Mumsnetters about everyday life, relationships and parenting.

Anyone else struggling to find meaning in life and wondering what it's all about?

260 replies

Mumonceremoved · 14/04/2024 22:46

Middle aged and generally just wondering what the point of it all is.

Why are we here?
What's the meaning of life?
What even is happiness?

Anyone else just feeling meh about the day to day drudgery and futility of it all?

Or if you did feel this way, how did you manage to snap out of it?

Is it normal?

OP posts:
gonegrl · 15/04/2024 10:42

I want to just chime in to say that I'm actually really pleased that I'm past that point in my life where I'm waiting for boys to text me back and I'm past being so insecure about my body because what my body looks like is a big social deal and I'm glad I don't have pressure to do things I don't want to do (I hated going out partying, I loved getting cost at home watching movies with friends). I now have the financial freedom to do what I want, I don't have my parents breathing down my neck and I'm so much more comfortable. Don't forget how uncomfortable those adrenaline days were!!!

EvenStillIWantTo · 15/04/2024 10:43

Veggielove84 · 15/04/2024 10:04

I'm not saying ALL science is deception but how can anyone disprove our creator ?

It doesn't need disproved. We apply logic and discard it as a credible belief system for our lives.

MistyBerkowitz · 15/04/2024 10:45

Veggielove84 · 15/04/2024 10:29

This makes no sense to me but you will believe what you want I suppose.

That really isn’t a matter of ‘belief’.

Veggielove84 · 15/04/2024 10:46

flutterby1 · 15/04/2024 10:41

@Veggielove84 primates stopped evolving because evolution occurs when there are harsh environmental / survival challenges , if they are not exposed to these challenges enough to stimulate a change then they are doing fine as they are, they are and are at optimum for their lifestyle and environment so they don't need to adapt or spend energy on unnecessary adaption. There is no script or end game , no animal has a blue print mapped out to eventually reach a particular morphine it's all to do with adapting to challenges.

Where is the proof of this ?

Veggielove84 · 15/04/2024 10:46

MistyBerkowitz · 15/04/2024 10:45

That really isn’t a matter of ‘belief’.

There is no proof to what your saying though is there ?

Watchkeys · 15/04/2024 10:54

What would you like your life to be like, @Mumonceremoved ? It's not 'the point of life' that's the issue, is it? It's that you don't like your life. Maybe you can take responsibility for yourself, and change some stuff so it's more in your favour? Sounds like you've been stuck in the drudge for so long, you feel like its victim!

Churchview · 15/04/2024 10:56

Recipe for Humanity
by Grayson Perry

You will die, you are alone
There is no god upon his throne
Impose thy will upon Earth's mess
Else your life is meaningless
No hell below, no heaven above
Life life now and act with love.

I'm 60. After a lifetime of career, mortgage etc I read this poem and thought what is this bollocks of a life I'm leading to prop up the economy and keep up with the Joneses. All that expensive bucket list rubbish, new car, dopamine hit Instagrammable, big telly, next cruise to justify the grind, making memories and ticking of milestones is something we're told to keep us working away to make the rich richer. In the process our hearts and souls become impoverished.

All those milestones are empty when you look back on them. Only today matters.

I had a good, hard think and realised I was happiest camping where I lived a small, minimal life, less stuff, more time, more freedom. The hills and beach there to be explored every day. Minimal chores as there was nothing to clean or maintain.

Gave up my job, sold my house and downsized (to the smallest, cheapest home I could). Now I muck about - just that. No kids, lots of friends. I have the life of riley with no material shit, no worries, no aspirations other than to make the very most of all the little and wonderful things of today. I'm more content than I ever thought possible whilst having less materially than anyone I know.

Lizzbear · 15/04/2024 11:03

EvenStillIWantTo · 14/04/2024 23:05

Yep. I'm finding myself really aware and scared that most of the best bits of life are behind me: the bits that fill you with dopamine and adrenaline, falling in love and carefree holidays with friends and going out dancing until 3am and having careless sex, and feeling sexy, and all that youthful stuff.

I'm trying to keep myself busy with hobbies (even the word makes me feel middle aged) but it does feel a lot like filling time, bringing little of that visceral joy that I used to feel fairly regularly.

I mean, taking a nice walk? Fuck off. Is that really the stuff that life is made of now?

This. Just this!

Watchkeys · 15/04/2024 11:07

@flutterby1

primates stopped evolving

Where have you got that crap from?

DanceMove · 15/04/2024 11:09

Veggielove84 · 15/04/2024 10:46

There is no proof to what your saying though is there ?

I didn't say anything, but it's not a matter of belief that evolution happens very slowly as organisms over many generations pass on attributes which enable them to survive local conditions better than organisms without them, and hence pass on their genes!

frozendaisy · 15/04/2024 11:10

Mumonceremoved · 15/04/2024 09:46

Not long then. Only a couple of years.

Couple of years treading life water to enjoy the next 30+?

DanceMove · 15/04/2024 11:12

Veggielove84 · 15/04/2024 10:25

OK. Why did the apes / monkeys stop evolving into humans ? I do not believe in evolution.

OK, I hadn't seen this one. Anyone this uninformed might just be better off thinking God made the world in seven days and then spent a remarkable amount of the Old Testament wilfully destroying bits of it via floods, plagues, raining sulphur and fire etc.

Veggielove84 · 15/04/2024 11:14

DanceMove · 15/04/2024 11:12

OK, I hadn't seen this one. Anyone this uninformed might just be better off thinking God made the world in seven days and then spent a remarkable amount of the Old Testament wilfully destroying bits of it via floods, plagues, raining sulphur and fire etc.

Lol wow, OK.

Veggielove84 · 15/04/2024 11:17

DanceMove · 15/04/2024 11:12

OK, I hadn't seen this one. Anyone this uninformed might just be better off thinking God made the world in seven days and then spent a remarkable amount of the Old Testament wilfully destroying bits of it via floods, plagues, raining sulphur and fire etc.

To be clear. I'm not uninformed, I choose to not entertain this evolution idea in any way.

DanceMove · 15/04/2024 11:20

Veggielove84 · 15/04/2024 11:17

To be clear. I'm not uninformed, I choose to not entertain this evolution idea in any way.

With respect, that's like choosing not to entertain 'this gravity idea'.

Churchview · 15/04/2024 11:22

EvenStillIWantTo · 14/04/2024 23:05

Yep. I'm finding myself really aware and scared that most of the best bits of life are behind me: the bits that fill you with dopamine and adrenaline, falling in love and carefree holidays with friends and going out dancing until 3am and having careless sex, and feeling sexy, and all that youthful stuff.

I'm trying to keep myself busy with hobbies (even the word makes me feel middle aged) but it does feel a lot like filling time, bringing little of that visceral joy that I used to feel fairly regularly.

I mean, taking a nice walk? Fuck off. Is that really the stuff that life is made of now?

Find ways to fill your days now with dopamine and adrenaline.

If that is what you desire, why deny yourself? You might be surprised to find that now you're older careless sex, feeling sexy and dancing until 3am are in reality a bit grim. If not - bloody do it, why not? If I'm right and you think, hmmm, that's all a bit hollow and seedy - well do other stuff. Find what makes you happy at this stage in your life.

Don't fill your time with stuff that doesn't give you joy because one day time will run out.

The best isn't behind you. It's now and ahead of you if you look for it and make it happen.

When you're 80, you'll look back on the you now and think, Christ, I was young and gorgeous and had all those magnificent years ahead of me. Don't squander them.

Veggielove84 · 15/04/2024 11:23

DanceMove · 15/04/2024 11:20

With respect, that's like choosing not to entertain 'this gravity idea'.

There is no proof of it for me. It goes against what I choose to believe in and I choose to believe in God as it speaks to me as truth.

HideousKinky · 15/04/2024 11:24

"I choose not to entertain this evolution idea"

You are choosing wilful ignorance Veggielove84

DanceMove · 15/04/2024 11:30

Veggielove84 · 15/04/2024 11:23

There is no proof of it for me. It goes against what I choose to believe in and I choose to believe in God as it speaks to me as truth.

Did God tell you about gravity, too?

Honestly, Biblical literalism produces some oddities.

Watchkeys · 15/04/2024 11:33

If you are informed, @Veggielove84 , who informs you, and how? Being 'informed' isn't really a thing, is it? It's just saying 'I have information'. It doesn't say anything about the quality or veracity of that information.

Awaydays · 15/04/2024 11:36

BrieHugger · 14/04/2024 23:49

I read this quote once, I like it:

“So, I’ve been thinking about this whole being happy thing, and I feel like people get lost when they think of happiness as a destination. We’re always thinking that someday we’ll be happy; we’ll get that car or that job or that person in our lives that will fix everything. But happiness is a mood, and it’s a condition, not a destination. It’s like being tired or hungry, it’s not permanent. It comes and goes, and that’s okay. And I feel like if people thought of it that way, they’d find happiness more often.”

My dad used to say something like this to me. He was/is a musician and he would always tell me that life is like a piece of music music, you don't listen to it just to get to the end of the song/piece, it's the whole piece that matters.

I've also read in other places that focusing too much on happiness can make us feel unhappy and unfulfilled. We are not likely to be happy all the time and that's okay, because life has ups and downs but if we think that we should be happy all the time then we will feel worse because that's not the reality of life.

Veggielove84 · 15/04/2024 11:36

HideousKinky · 15/04/2024 11:24

"I choose not to entertain this evolution idea"

You are choosing wilful ignorance Veggielove84

OK what came first the chicken or the egg . I choose to believe God crested a male and female chicken and they started reproducing eggs ( because they need to be fertilised) I don't have all day to keep replying but this is the sort of thinking I choose to believe in. We all have a creator.

EvenStillIWantTo · 15/04/2024 11:37

Well @Churchview I'm not really in a position to do those things, what with the mortgage, full time job and children with SEN. I sort of wish I'd wrung more out of my younger years; I miss that feeling of pure joy, even with little kids around it happens most days, but with unhappy teens it's nowhere to be found.

And all that going for a walk does it give me the space to ponder it more, like a descending spiral of overthinking and depression.

cerisepanther73 · 15/04/2024 11:38

@Startingagainandagain

I love ❤️ your philosophy about life,
emotionally intelligent sage full good advice...
👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

Veggielove84 · 15/04/2024 11:40

Watchkeys · 15/04/2024 11:33

If you are informed, @Veggielove84 , who informs you, and how? Being 'informed' isn't really a thing, is it? It's just saying 'I have information'. It doesn't say anything about the quality or veracity of that information.

I choose to have faith in God. I pray. I go on what I read in the bible too especially the new testament as Jesus came and changed the way the relationship with God was lived like in those days. But from my understanding some of the bible books were removed so we have the information we have and that's it. I don't listen to humans if it doesn't align with scripture. Thats my choice.