Chris and Eve vloggers quit?

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I used to follow a YouTube couple, Chris and Eve, they seemed quite nice and had 2 cats they vlogged about a lot, and more recently had 2 kids. I think they had a reasonable following.

I wanted to find out what company cat-proofed their garden, but I can't find their YT channel or Insta any more? The accounts are both unavailable. Just wondered if anyone knew if they've decided to quit vlogging? Thinking about it, I hadn't seen any videos by them come up for ages. (And in the meantime if anyone can recommend good cat-proofing companies in Surrey or Berkshire area, I'd be grateful!)

You've spectacularly misunderstood what I was referring to! Spectacularly 😂

The only person who seems to be misunderstanding things is you. A very naive and narrow view of the aviation industry. Anyone with even a grain of meaningful experience in it wouldn’t believe the claim that pilots have to hide their social media for even a second - that is absolutely ludicrous, uneducated and simply untrue.

I haven't "spectacularly misunderstood" anything. Every single one of your posts has been wrong in some way. You don't seem to know or understand the industry at all.

Contradicting yourself with regards to the pay and conditions.

Spouting utter shite about "security clearance requirements" and "wiping all traces of online presence" to meet said requirements 🤣🤣

Give. Over.

Maybe have your little arguments somewhere else?

I have also felt saddened and confused at their sudden disappearance. But this email thread has helped me a lot as I know I am not alone in feeling this way. Thank you, all.

I am incredibly disappointed with Chris and Eve.

Yes it's reasonable to say as some have above that the 'relationship' or 'connection' between them and their fans who followed their channels for years isn't real, that we don't really know them, and that they they don't really owe us anything, however you might well as argue that all online connections are fake. The reality is that we have moved into a society over the last couple of decades where such connections have taken on great importance for people.

Chris and Eve have benefited in more ways than one from their blogs and social media, be it financially (whilst this may have limited impact for them if they are both pilots) and free products sent to them to review and endorse etc.

As fans we had benefited from the enjoyment bought by the quality of vlogs produced and the 'connection' (whilst arguably not real as mentioned) that came from following their channels.

I must admit, I always wondered what they possibly did to live the life they seemed to have based from the content they produced

Whilst one of two weekly vlogs can be misleading as a reflection of the whole week, they always seemed to have a lot of free time and were clearly quite well off.

They never talked about their work as far as I know and whilst I did wonder, I accepted they didn't want to talk about it, and that's fine.

They, are or course entitled to their privacy. the fact they chose to share so much of their lives in the way they did, be that a wise or unwise decision does not change that.

So now that all their channels and online presence seem to have vanished, they are still entitled to their privacy, however as per my initial statement I'm still incredibly disappointed in them.

Unless something very dramatic has happened, such as a breach of privacy endangering their children or themselves I think to completely cut themselves off like this with no explanation is a pretty low thing to do.

If they had decided to stop blogging, they easily could have released a final video saying goodbye. If they wanted to take down a lot of their content, they could have done that as well whilst still leaving a goodbye video up for a while to allow their fans and the people who have followed them and found a connection, however little basis in reality it has (which as I've tried to point out, doesn't really matter, a connection was formed anyway).

If it was an issue with work, they still could have done this and removed all the problematic content.

If they had run into a relationship issue, one or both of them still could have posted a message on their last video or posted a quick video saying something on the lines of they needed privacy for a while but hoped to be back one day or something.

If they have just decided to call it a day, I find it very hard to believe that they wouldn't have come across this thread as well, as they surely would have been looking to see if their was any online reaction to the closing down, seemingly overnight of all their content.

Would it be that hard for one of them to say something here, but explaining why they had stopped. They don't have to go into detail, again they are entitled to their privacy, but a simple goodbye message would actually have put an end to most of the quite nasty speculation discussed on this thread.

So again, unless something quite bad has happened to them, and I wouldn't want to speculate on what that could be, as again i don't think that is for us to do, I am disappointed in them.

But, I wish them well and hope they come back one day.

@mattpa they probably felt uncomfortable with the reality that so many people feel they 'know' them.

They don't owe you, or anyone else anything. Their blog/ vlog or whatever was a business, it was an act to make money. That is all. That's what it all is.

Current influencers are really good at coming across as 'normal' and friends with their subscribers. That's a skill they have and how they make money.

Feels like there’s a lesson to be learned here. Which is, that as much as you feel you know someone who is posting a lot online, they are just an influencer who is making money from their platform. There is no relationship, it’s their job. People could do with staying less invested in these people who are simply money making from being so likeable to the public.

On reflection, I totally agree with this. It's just crazy how sucked in you can get without even realising. It's like I've been involved in a social science experiment without knowing! There is a lesson learnt.

I do believe they've seen this thread and had a look - or they wouldn't have changed their FB pictures/details etc and wiped more from the internet.

I can also see why the other poster is disappointed in them for not just sending a simple goodbye and giving some closure to their followers. Unless something has actually threatened them and their family. I think that's why people have been so worried about them and genuinely care. If they did simply want to quit, then I am disappointed in them too for not ending it differently. Especially after all the loyalty people have shown and gifts sent etc. This is why there is so much speculation as there is no answers. They were posting less and less on social media so they were probably getting fed up of the upkeep of their channels. I know they don't owe anyone anything but I just think people's loyalty, care, kindness etc is something special and personally I could never just ghost that. How lucky were they to have such lovely followers?! Hopefully nothing bad has happened. And yes they probably have been just influences making money. So many people seemed to think otherwise of them and that's the problem - they don't want to give up if something awful has happened. Time will help those who need it anyway. Good luck to C&E if they do see this.

I genuinely don't believe Chris and Eve saw themselves as 'influencers' who were just in it for the money, which is partly what is so sad about the situation.

At their channels size they they would have made very little revenue, especially compared to their own salaries, all the more so if Eve or both of them are actually pilots.

I never found them to be cynically only in for the cash as had been suggested and felt they genuinely enjoyed the content they created and responding to the feedback from their viewers.

They took a joy in the lives they were creating for themselves and I found them to be often quite inspiring in their approach to certain moments in their lives that many if us deal with.

This is why to me it's so shocking what has happened, and aside from a massive breach of their privacy leading to themselves or their children being placed in danger being the reason (which would be understandable for the actions which seem to have been taken) has left me disappointed in them.

Disappointed in people for protecting their own privacy? Do get a grip.

Please read my post properly. I've said that unless that that was the reason, or something similar, then I'm disappointed.

Obviously they have a right to privacy.

@mattpa they've obviously deleted their accounts to protect their privacy. It's up to them to decide why they may wish to protect their privacy. Not you.

All the stuff you've said about them not seeing themselves as influencers, that's the act. That's why they were clearly good at what they did.

They weren't your friends, they were doing a job.

I'm not surprised they've quit. I felt like Chris in particular was getting totally bored of vlogging tbh. He came across in some of the recent videos as if making them was a chore. I imagine it becomes very arduous. I think 'influencing' is def on the decline.

Maybe I'm being naive, but I prefer not to be that cynical in this particular case.

Watching the videos from the 9 years or so the channel was up i really feel they enjoyed producing the content as they were enjoying sharing their lives with others. They were happy and it made them happier to share that happiness. I don't believe they ever saw themselves as influencers or were only in it for the limited amount of money they would have made.

They did mention at one point in the last six months or so that they were starting to struggle to have enough content to make two videos a week worthwhile.

Chris in particular talked about how he wanted the vlogs to have good content and not just to be produced to tick a box.

I doubt they would have ended so abruptly due to this though.

Agreed.
Their vlogs were declining into them going somewhere and/or doing something then coming on line and complaining about how naff it was. Like the recent one about their kids' handprints on the vase project. Cringe-worthy!
Possibly, the companies C&E complained about didn't care for such unsolicited, negative reviews and it could have gotten them into legal trouble.
I went from watching them all the time - from the very beginning (mostly for Turbo & Jet) - to only watching them in recent months if my YouTube feed suggested it, because, for example, followers would give them lots of gardening advice in the comments, which they asked for but none of which they seemed to follow, then they'd complain about their garden not doing well, so I lost interest.

Frankly, I didn't know they were gone until maybe a month or more after they'd done it, for I realized it was Turbo & Jet's birthday (April) and went looking for the usual celebratory video, only to find everything wiped. Then I stumbled onto this thread that was well into 8 pages of "theories."
Whether they got bored, got into legal trouble via those negative reviews, got high-ranking government jobs that forced them offline for job security, or some tragedy happened where their families had to shut their SM down so their images wouldn't be floating around the internet forever, the bottom line is they're gone for reasons we'll never know unless someday they or someone tells their followers.
For me, I enjoyed sending Turbo & Jet birthday cards while it lasted. C&E/T&J inspired me to start a YouTube channel about my own cats, and while I enjoy getting 3k in views every time, it's a struggle to keep up with demand when it's just your hobby as C&E used to say it was for them. So I get it.

@IrishBritGirl you sent birthday cards to some cats you had never met and whose owners were strangers too?

Well at least we don’t need a detective to work out why they’ve ‘disappeared’ after this thread! Such alarming invasions of privacy and entitlement to see into their lives from absolute strangers. Good on them for deciding to protect their family

Chris and Eve asked us to.
They made special Christmas cards of Turbo and Jet to send back if you sent something.
It was an interactive vlog where C&E liked to engage with their followers, at least in the beginning.
I never went so far as to send them gifts like some people did, but cards to the cats, yes, that's a cat thing. My viewers have asked me to set up a P.O. Box so they can send cards to Jasper & Micky but I won't do it.
Go to the Sherpa channel or the Kyush channel where those YouTubers have Amazon wishlists for their dogs.
It's a thing.

True and that is of course their right, which many of us followers understand and respect.
However, bear in mind that C&E invited us in.
What some of the more critical responses on this thread don't seem to understand or fail to acknowledge is that these YouTubers set that very intimate boundary. You don't get a P.O. Box and tell your viewers about it if you don't expect to get mail from them. You don't post a video asking for advice on parenting or gardening if you don't expect responses.
Chris & Eve asked for comments, advice, and interaction. They set-up a P.O. Box so followers could send them cards and gifts. So I ask you, how is it "entitlement" or an "invasion of privacy" when one is asked to participate in a semi-physical way and one does so?
When one invites others in (and guests accept the invitation), then they host their guests by their own free will. Those who don't accept the invitation, and choose to stand outside and criticize those who do, are the only ones who see a "supposed" problem of privacy invasion; certainly not the invitees.

Conversely, when one invites guests, and then decides the party is over, it only seems polite for the hosts to eventually say, "Thank you for coming, however, we won't be hosting anymore."
I think what is concerning for many who accepted that invitation is the "Scorched Earth" way C&E's disappearance has happened - with no sign off. I mean, what if they died? Isn't that a tragedy? Wouldn't someone with a modicum of humanity be concerned, strangers or not? If the neighbor down the street with whom you only had a nodding acquaintance got mowed down in the middle of the road, would you care? Or just pull a Seinfeldian "That's a shame" and walk away?
Those commenting here who never chose to subscribe to C&E's channel/follow them on Instagram and FaceBook, or don't know about the level of interaction C&E allowed, even encouraged, really shouldn't criticize. For some on this thread trying to say that those of us who interacted with C&E are somehow bad people, is both inaccurate and unfair.
We were invited in; many of us, like me, love animals and were first drawn to C&E's channel via the cats, Turbo & Jet; it was a bit of harmless fun to send the cats birthday cards . . . from my own cats, I might add.
In the name of my cats, I send cards to other animal YouTube channels that allow it. It's cute and funny.
Like I said, I have followers on my YouTube channel asking me to set up a P.O. Box for my cats, but I can't do it because I don't have the time it takes to film the elaborate "Unboxing" videos such an invitation requires (check out Sherpa or Keyush). That's why C&E shut down their P.O. Box after the children arrived. Followers dealt with that just fine and continued to interact via messaging/comments.
A few trolls on this thread who put out click-bait responses of "an affair" or other trashy comments should just be ignored, as they don't represent who the bulk of C&E's followers were. For example, we appreciated that Eve turned vegan like many of us who love animals and won't eat them.
We're not "bad/sick" people. I think we're all hoping C&E just got bored (they were just "phoning it in" since the start of 2024) and decided a clean break was best, as is their right. But I also think that what is niggling at the back of everyone's mind is that there was some kind of a tragedy, which no person with an ounce of humanity would want to have happened. So they're venting here to assuage those fears, as any psychologist will tell you.
A bit extreme, I'll warrant, and that's only been escalated by some of the attacks placed upon those venting, which is the "Dark Side" of Social Media. I had a commenter on my channel criticize me for "having no life" by putting cat videos on the Internet. I reminded him that he was the one watching cat videos on the Internet . . . at 4 a.m., no less - according to the message timestamp. That's 21st Century life now.
As I teach students in my communication theory courses at the large university where I'm a professor, "Perspective is subjective: Its influenced by our personal attitudes, values and beliefs that we develop growing up, which are themselves influenced by culture, region, and fluctuating societal norms."
People on this thread have their own perspective of their "relationship" with C&E - from friends to just a bit of fun. If it's helpful to read/share thoughts and move on, that's fine. Trolling and criticizing, not so much.
For me, watching "Another episode of Chris and Eve." was fun while it lasted. I'll treasure my Turbo & Jet Christmas cards that C&E mailed to me and which I still have and nestle into the branches of my Christmas tree every year (since 2015) as a reminder of a cute, fun, and brief interaction between my (former) cats (who since passed away) and those two adorable British Shorthairs. I'm sentimental like that. There's even a video on my own channel of one of my late cats watching Turbo & Jet and it's dear to my heart.
You can hate on that all you want. Meanwhile, I'll go on interacting with some other good YouTube channels featuring lovable animals because "There's nothing wrong with that."

I’m not reading that entire essay.

I’m a former C&E viewer too. The level of entitlement, detective work and speculation by some posters on this thread is borderline insane and I will stand by that.

@IrishBritGirl you are a university Professor? at a U.K. university? Or do you mean teacher/lecturer? Professor has a very particular meaning in the U.K.

I am not sure why you are keen to stress that C and E encouraged communication, cards and gifts. Of course they did, that is part of the job description with a business like theirs. You don’t need to stress that they wanted you to communicate, but perhaps you can explain why you chose to send cards and gifts to strangers and their cats. You did not have a real relationship with them. You were a follower, they needed your interest in order to make money.

I am a university lecturer. I am very surprised indeed about your level of critical thinking skills.

Well I read the whole thing, took about 2 minutes. made a lot of sense.

Thankfully I’m not devoted enough to watching cats on YouTube to care.