Thread 41 How many more MPs will Sunak lose?

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New thread. I took the liberty - the old one was at 999!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enemies_of_the_People_%28headline%29

Even with that @SerendipityJane I think it is much diminished. Sometimes I have a degree of frustration on here because I can't always be frank as to why but obviously the DM like the Telegraph has always been the mouthpiece of a certain Tory spin doctor. The point is that the judiciary survived that particular hysteria

They sacked her for being offensive
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2013/jan/14/theobserver-transgender

Then she got sacked by the telegraph for being offensive

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/julie-burchill-telegraph-lilibet-tweet-b1861989.html

The problem could be how she expresses her views, rather than the views themselves?

Oh no bomb! What if reading the DM is like shopping at M&S and something that comes to us all once we get into their target age bracket?!!

Being an expatriate Londoner, I can remember Burchill writing for Time Out. As did Will Self.

And most honestly, John McVicar.

@AdamRyan - I have hopes by the time I reach 70 it will have turned into the Euro 1970s soft porno celeb mag it so desperately wants to be. Minus the Royal Family coverage which is amazing in its tediousness

Ha!

FWIW I don't think that is what Rothermere wants from his investment. Or what any media owner wants.

Nobody owns print media or the online platforms to make money.
It's a means to direct/misdirect voters focus and keep policies where they like them.
And in an age where our attention spans are shortening (and we are all time poor) it's all about the headline, not the content.

I think you’re safe. An irresistible urge to buy the DM has yet to strike me in my 71st year.

@Lion400 To even pick up the DM, let alone buy it, denotes a certain sneeriness towards other people, usually less fortunate than themselves.... their journalism stinks.... a generalisation perhaps but it doesn't make it any less accurate.

How many regular DM readers do you think are against Rwanda, pro EU and vote Labour? its going to be a small minority.

Snnering at newspaper readerships is all the rage since Braverman blamed "Tofu eating, Guardian reading wokerati" for the government's inability to govern.

And there's the "pathetic, London Elite" who get their news from the erm Daily Star according to Liz Truss.😂😂😂

Let us not forget when the Daily Mail , not scared to be forthright, printed the faces of Stephen Lawrence's killers. Their one fine moment.

I don't think I once sneered at DM readers.

The susceptibility of newspaper readers is embedded in all journalistic theory and is not particularly controversial : see the hypodermic syringe model.

Perhaps lion you would like to do your own survey on whether DM readers buy it to engage in the Crossword.

And that bloke with a big nose

I mean if we were going to find the sneerer on this thread...

Honestly I want a t shirt with that on

@TooBigForMyBoots here you go https://printerval.com/uk/tofu-eating-wokerati-unisex-t-shirt-guardian-reading-tofu-eating-wokerati-shirts-p556437

Actually that one has a misprint, many others available!

I have to buy the DM for my mum every Saturday. I cringe every time. She has Alzheimer’s and it’s the only Television guide she can cope with. In her defence she’s got used to it because DF always bought it on a Saturday. He was a lifelong Labour member, councillor and Trade Unionist, knocked doorsteps every election, campaigned against Brexit etc.
Every time I questioned why he was buying it he’d say he liked to know what the enemy were thinking. Plus they did vouchers towards M&S coupons.

My dad read it. I made him laugh by presenting it to him using the tongs. Goodness, I do miss him.

All media are biased and I'm well aware that my prejudices will play into what I choose to read. However, I can choose to read widely and cross check my sources. That Internet has made that a lot easier (with the exception of the reflexive meme jerk I see on Twitter.)

The problem is getting people to recognise the need for critical thinking and fact checking as it does take time and it does not lead to a dopamine rush.

Not at all. A factual observation from a child’s mind (I would’ve been <18yrs old).

I scan through it when I go to my parents these days (I’m quite a lot older..) but usually I just do the (quick) crossword badly crossing stuff out in pen. Which my dad gets exasperated by, but it’s kind of expected now.

I also of course shake my head at its bias. As I would any paper.

My dad gets the mail for the racing. I hate the paper with a passion.

Hearing rumours on twitter that Menzies is stepping down as an MP. Unclear whether it is immediate or at GE.

Just noticed the italics. Well done, the effect is vivid.

Me too. 20yrs there, still miss it. Time magazine was office trash. No one actually read it as far as I can remember. Image wise the front page was usually mildly attention grabbing.