Thread 41 How many more MPs will Sunak lose?

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New thread. I took the liberty - the old one was at 999!

Did the dog ask to be blurred out because he was embarrassed to be seen with her?

😂 A cat def. A dog 🤔 maybe!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68863796

Mr Stark said the country had made enormous progress towards reaching the climate target of net zero by 2050 under Theresa May and Boris Johnson.

But Mr Sunak's Downing Street had sent a message to the rest of the world that "the UK is less ambitious on climate than it once was, and that is extremely hard to recover".

I for one want to see the film 'Bad People'.

Anything the UK does ref climate change is pissing in the wind. Absolutely negligible if one prefers. Don’t get me wrong we should educate people and do the best we can day to day. But any extra money spent by our gvt is a waste of tax payers cash.

We’d be better off putting any funds towards eg. Improving education and helping those in need.

https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2023/12/us/countries-climate-change-emissions-cop28/#

Obviously those MPs with poor mental health can access funds from their local campaign headquarters, though obviously for more than a year in some circumstances.

I thought the point of the Government's Green Energy plan and the target dates was to draw investment into the UK, specifically in manufacturing.

The idea was - by having those dates/targets - was to get ahead of of our rival economies who are also looking for inward investment. Our Government had agreed to stump up X before (for example) European Governments would pay out and therefore we would become the favoured base.
It was supposed to make us more competitive! And dovetail with some of the industries we already have.

Alongside that it was thought it would create a quarter of a million jobs.

Why would Sunak want any of those things, he is moving to California soon.

From the article you linked Lion

A growing chorus of scientists has warned the 1.5 target may now be dead, but that doesn’t mean there’s less urgency, they say. “Every fraction of a degree makes a very big difference in impacts on the ground,” said Taryn Fransen, director of science, research, and data for the World Resources Institute's Global Climate Program.

Not exactly 'pissing in the wind' to work towards net zero

Jess - I dont think it was Sunak's plan! And now they've changed the dates so the intended competitive advantage has been lost. Ah well. We didn't really need that investment anyway.

This was very interesting on the topic
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/does-rishi-sunak-care-about-climate-change/id1640878689?i=1000618894290

Ok dokey. Let’s spend more on that then. Less on other stuff. You’ve convinced me.

I thought we had agreed earlier that education was a bad thing as it makes people think more critically and more left leaning?

I thought you read the article, it's not me saying that, it's the scientists.

And the Tories have not exactly invested in education and those in need

Wasn't that just what Sunak was talking about on Friday?

I think the clue is in the phrase 'improving' education.

Did we discuss this yesterday? Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face. Brexit really is the gift that keeps giving

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68848046

He was emitting a lot of hot air

Disappointing from Labour too on the EU proposal.

Was he having bowel trouble?

Apparently Trump was living up to his name in court

@Lion400 that is actually quite a misleading link. What it fails to mention is that most of our rubbish is shipped to places like Africa and China to be disposed of. Often this is toxic and not something we want polluting our soils https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/burning-truth-behind-e-waste-dump-africa-180957597/.

Our gov pays their gov money to hide it, if you like. The West is the biggest consumer and therefore has more waste. We have more cars. We pollute more in those ways. We have benefited from the industrial revolution and now countries like China and Africa are having their turn for progress and have begun upgrading from fossil fuels as their economies grow, faster than we ever did and are doing. We are basically using them as our dumping ground to move the goalposts.

I can't see how the Tories were ever going to let this through though - people who voted for Brexit didn't value experts or university education as it is, let alone see the benefit in educating our own free in another country or having their best and brightest here under Erasmus. It was a symbol of the elite, if you remember.
Tories want to Tory using vast wealth, not allow MC peasants to do what they can afford to. Let's throw the Leave lot a bone to show "we got Brexit DONE"

Yes, however age 18-25 are the group most annoyed about brexit, least likely to vote Conservative and are the ones who would benefit from this. Its just going to further alienate them, which seems silly.