Thread 41 How many more MPs will Sunak lose?

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New thread. I took the liberty - the old one was at 999!

Aren't they timed out to rely upon the Parliament Act? I think they need a year between sessions.
(Might have misunderstood that!)

No idea!

Excellent point.

Agree as well it's a scandal if they pass it but it's more of a scandal they are trying to send them to Rwanda.

Actually - it's a scandal they need to get here to seek asylum on a small dangerous boat in the first place.

We should be offering these people sanctuary and welcoming them with open arms after they helped protect the lives of our British people at the risk of their own.

It's taken me a while to find this very short but interesting thread re Parliament Act & Salisbury Convention from Dr Alice Lily -

1. In the case of the Rwanda bill, where we are now and when this parliament must end means government CANNOT meet the timing requirements that it would need to legally meet in order to use the Parliament Act. So it CANNOT use the Parliament Act. End of debate. It simply can’t.

It may well be that the Lords does not feel bound by the Salisbury Convention when considering the Rwanda bill as it wasn’t a manifesto commitment. But that is a completely separate question to whether the govt can use the Parliament Act- which, see above

x.com/aliceolilly/status/1733060880118497671?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/explainer/parliament-acts

This may contain the answer, although I felt sure there was also something about manifestos involved.

https://www.parliament.uk/about/faqs/house-of-lords-faqs/lords-legislation/

It does appear as though a year is important, which of course Sunak doesn't have.

I have learned something. I did not know of the year limit. Well then they will just ping pong the bill to death it seems. Oh dear

I think it is expected that the Rwanda Bill will get apporved at some point but that flights will not take off.

I'll see if I can remember where I read that

Beth Rigby

NEW: House of Lords passes amendment that the independent monitoring committee has to declare Rwanda a safe county. With that the bill back to the HoC for the fifth time….bounces Rwanda bill into Monday

That sounds slightly more cheering, although agree an absolute scandal & wickedness that the Afghan people that supported the U.K. could be subjected to such inhumanity, just when you think the government couldn’t sink any lower they do, every bloody single day it’s so utterly abhorrent.

247 to 195 for the amendment Exemption for agents, allies and employees of the UK Overseas

Thank you.

I wonder if Sunak had allowed that ammendment the first time it was put back to the Commons he might have taken the steam out of some of the Lords other objections and got his bill past.
He really is a master politican.

Weren't some eyebrows raised over Theresa May creating an extra long parliamentary session as it prevented the parliament act or something ?

https://twitter.com/UKLabour/status/1780689586806727008

Love this. No idea who Labour have got doing their social media stuff but they are wiping the floor with whoever is doing it for the Tories.

Um, what now???

Unbelievable story from The Times, Tory MP accused of misusing party funds after being locked in a flat in the early hours
thetimes.co.uk/article/28f948…

x.com/alexofbrown/status/1780698352587546868?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

For those who/o Twitter-
The gist is Mark Menzies (Tory MP) apparently rang a local party volunteer at 3am as he was. Locked in a flat (?) and needed £5k as a matter of life & death (?) The local office manager paid £6.5k out of their own money and was repaid from campaign funds.

V gd.

So RAF crew who potentially worked with Afghan troops might then have to fly them to Rwanda?

It is so short sighted. I hope someone asks a Minister what they think of that.

I'm sure this story was doing the rounds a while back, but Menzies wasn't named?

But Angela Rayner...

This is the story I was talking thinking of. Apologies for the link to DM.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11928613/Tory-MP-wakes-naked-brothel-unable-clothes-calls-senior-colleague-help.html

Sharetoken link from that tweet

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/28f948c4-70b5-4b29-a094-ea5ccfc2a53b?shareToken=5c4a6c70a61b4815ab8dc3e3c926d968

Deleted as share token above and saves clogging up the thread!

Blimey you lot have been chatty today!

We had a visitor

I'm now wondering how many MPs assistants are having to run around in the middle of the night paying off "bad people".

It makes the Rayner debacle look pretty tame, don’t it?