Iran launches drones on Israel tonight. Is this very serious as in kickstarting ww3?

[Primroseoil]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/apr/13/iran-launches-drone-attack-against-israel

If women were equal the Middle East would be a very different region.
It’s governed mostly by misogynists.

Intentional?

A reaction that's calibrated not to do much damage only to save face and they've already said they consider the matter closed. They don't want to poke the bear.....

But.....Netanyahu is dangerous. If he retaliates it will escalate.

I support the Jewish people. But Netanyahu needs removed.

It's as if the Israeli government are deliberately fanning the flames. I don't really understand why. To ensure a wider conflict? To keep in power? The UK government too just seems to mirror whatever the US stance is. Starmer and Sunak have given out broadly similar statements. Not calling for an immediate end to this madness. Why?

It's not even that - you don't "sit back and see peace" on the global stage, there's lots going on in the background managing relationships that we don't see or realise. Peaceful co-existences when ideologies, political and religious, are poles apart don't just happen. They take work and it takes particular personalities, charm and real intelligence, not to mention negotiating skills. War is not usually the first choice when it comes to resolving an international dispute. It's a last resort unless the actors are not interested in talking. Then, when everyone is battered by war come the real negotiations where the peace is decided. At that stage people may be prepared to soften their stances and overlook some of the things which have happened for the greater good, but even then it doesn't make for a perfect outcome and, you could argue, has led to some terrible decisions being taken out of desire to do the right thing by a wronged party.

The UN, NATO and the EU were born out of a desire to stop major wars happening again and give people security and peace. The UK had some of the most favourable terms as an EU member. Now we're in the wilderness, posturing to be a big player on our own terms.

This is my exact thoughts.

Israel will now use this attack to justify its continued genocide in Gaza, despite no reported deaths and limited damage. The fact that this attack was launched because Israel attacked an embassy and killed military personnel and civilians has already been forgotten. Let’s hope that Gazans and other civilians in the Middle East that do not benefit from the same protection are not forgotten about in the following days. What ever Israel does it always involves killing civilians.

I would suspect it is due to Netanyahu being so desperate to cling onto his remaining power. He knows that he can commit the most horrendous crimes yet be allowed to continue. Netanyahu also knows that America will protect him and that others will follow suit. He is a dangerous individual completely filled with bloodlust.

Netanyahu is grimly clinging on to power. It is properly grim for all concerned.

Imagine Netanyahu and Trump in power at the same time. 😬

I don’t understand why Netanyahu is allowed to continue in the way he has been.
there’s retaliating for October 7th which I understand but the way he has behaved and the way he has used it to try to wipe Palestine off the map is not ok.

I honestly just hope we stay out of it, like a lot of other countries in the West manage to do. Let the Middle East sort their own shit out. They’re one of the main causes of unrest in the world today. Leave them to get on with it.

I’ve just been picturing those missiles (that humans have designed and made with the sole purpose of murdering as many people as possible) flying through the sky until midnight. Why are we as humans doing this to each other? Why can’t we just stop the whole thing and get on? Needlessly killing people is never going to be the answer

This ignores all of human history. Cavemen used to fight over territories, caves and who knows what that would likely make us scratch our heads today. They used hand fashioned wooden clubs, sticks etc.

Then people started to become more civilised/evolved so then clans/tribes would fight the next one with spears. Then the wheel was invented and people thought, hmmm, could put catapults on that and smash the shit out of each others walls/fortresses and use some arrows for good measure.

Then eventually tribes turned to countries and wars continued and as we evolved so did the weapons we used to fight other countries. The whole point right from cavemen onwards has always been to kill as many of the other tribe as possible. Leading to today’s atomic bombs, missiles and so on.

Given that we, as humans, have never actually ‘got on’ as such and felt the need to add an extra cave or two and area to grow the tribe, why do you think we will suddenly start now? Serious question.

Why don’t Hamas just let the remaining hostages go? That would be a start. I suspect the reason is because there are no hostages left. They’ve all been murdered.

The EU was not born out of an idea to stop major wars happening again.
Adenauer wanted a tariff free arrangement with France, then other western European countries to build up manufacturing and to promote the economic progression of the FRG. His nation was going to be front and centre. He was a Chancellor of the Allies, this was during the Cold War. He hated Communism, and the movement of labour and suppression of wages helped to control the trade union movement.
I think we should still be in the EU, don't get me wrong, but to claim it's some sort of peace organisation is very wide of the mark.

Well, Israel did prevent basic food and water from entering along with other supplies. They also bombed anywhere and everywhere. Along with "accidentally" murdering three males who had a white flag with them. Let's not forget that Israel has an incredibly large amount of Palestinians captive including children. That has been going on for a large number of years ~ it didn't all start in October.

I have done. What a hideous human being he is.

The only way this is going to be resolved is by jaw jaw not war war. The main sticking point here is that Israel want the release of the remaining hostages. Whilst you try to find excuses around this, that maybe they’ve all been accidentally killed by the IDF, I think Hamas would definitely have highlighted that already if that was the case. Maybe some may have been caught up in the crossfire, but not all. Release the hostages, then get independent mediators from other countries to sit down and work out a way forward for both countries to live side by side with compromises from both sides. That’s the only way forward here.

I agree with you, @Livelovebehappy .
Release the hostages. Let them go back to their families. It would be a start.

Absolutely this. I’m shock and appalled to read these posts - where are these people getting their information from?

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/4/1/several-killed-in-israeli-strike-on-iranian-consulate-in-damascus-reports

Is this in retaliation for the Israeli government bombing of an Iran embassy? (I believe Iran saw this as an escalation unsurprisingly) I haven’t clicked the article as I end up doom scrolling

Thats an insane read of what's been going on for decades in the region. Extraordinary.

@KateDelRick we'll have to agree to disagree - the EU had it's beginnings with Adenauer et al, as the EEC, but the organisation as it is now following the Maastricht Treaty is rather different.

Unfortunately many of the Israelis taken hostage are likely to have been killed given the destruction of Gaza.

Unless I am very much mistaken we haven't heard demands from Hamas in relation to the hostages? Or are they overshadowed?

This might be the case end of the year …