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Evening invite to friend’s wedding

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Loulou1902 · 10/04/2024 22:40

I’ve known the hen for 18 years, and although we’ve had our moments in the last couple of years, I consider her a close friend and have previously been invited along to any important events (her graduation, baby shower etc).

A week or so after the hen do I messaged her to find out timings for the wedding, as I still hadn’t heard anything but had overheard several others talking about invites and accommodation bookings. She then replied telling me that my invite is 7pm onwards (evening guest) and that she’ll get an invite to me in the next couple of weeks. I’m feeling a little hurt by this, as from what I can make out I’m the only one of her long term friends not invited to the ceremony. And it’s not a small ceremony either. Sounds like I have been grouped in with work and other more distant friends in the evening.

I’m also a little frustrated that I’ve just paid out £250+ for her hen do without being given the heads up that I would just be an evening guest.

Am I being a little sensitive about this? Or do I ask to meet her for coffee to discuss it?

OP posts:
Pipecleanerrevival · 12/04/2024 12:42

I’d go to the evening and have a great time. Wrap up a Terry’s Chocolate Orange for their gift and chase them up for a hand written thank you card.

wplaf · 12/04/2024 12:42

I would just say that you can’t come. You say you’re an evening guest, but you did not even receive an evening guest invite until chasing - so I’d wonder whether you were invited at all.

you could say you’re coming and then get covid/D&V or just say you can’t make it/afford it.

ColBoulter · 12/04/2024 12:45

Jf20 · 11/04/2024 18:26

I suspect it is not she’s offended about you being silent for a period, it is more during thay time she moved on and got closer to other people.and you are now no longer as close as you once were or as the others are. Possibly also as you had a child at the time and she didn’t, simply you drifted apart and are still in the rebuilding phase but on the periphery.

i notice when you write, you talk about you and why you drifted, with a comment on causing damage, and how she understands, but you fail to think through what did she do during this time, and that was clearly to continue to socialise and get closer to the others.

if this friendship is important to uou and i think it is, id go, they will know you’re on the periphery, or if you were a last min add. But that doesn’t mean they don’t like you or want you, simply their friendships progressed whilst you dipped out, so you will need to keep working at it to get to where they are now.

This is such good advice.
It hurts when friendships change but sometimes they just do.
However I disagree with the rebuilding it bit.
She is not being a good friend to you anymore so focus on building other friendships whilst keeping the door open.

Stop chasing, giving her things and 2 forgotten coffees would mean no further invite , once is OK, twice deliberate .
A counsellor told me about mirroring others energy and its sound advice .
She's putting low energy into maintaining your friendship .

I would politely decline and wish her all the best

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bellocchild · 12/04/2024 12:47

Could you accept and then not go? Say, "sorry, something came up!" and then drop the friendship...

Jellyx · 12/04/2024 12:48

I find it odd you're close enough to be invited to the hen do but not the wedding ceremony.

You have 2 options

  1. graciously accept the evening invite and go and have a good time (don't buy a new outfit and possibly not a wedding gift especially given the possible costs of accommodation and hen do)

  2. Decline the invite and send her a wedding card and a nominal amount of £ and wish her well.

SerafinasGoose · 12/04/2024 12:56

Jellyx · 12/04/2024 12:48

I find it odd you're close enough to be invited to the hen do but not the wedding ceremony.

You have 2 options

  1. graciously accept the evening invite and go and have a good time (don't buy a new outfit and possibly not a wedding gift especially given the possible costs of accommodation and hen do)

  2. Decline the invite and send her a wedding card and a nominal amount of £ and wish her well.

Or option 3, if you don't attend, send her nothing. Why would you?

I wouldn't be getting into silly, PA games like accepting the invitation but then not bothering to show up. Bride is rude, granted, but there is no need to resort to equal rudeness.

I suspect the PPs above are right in their observation that even the evening invitation wasn't issued until the bride was asked. It's probably a fair assumption that you'd been left off the guest list entirely, and that the invitation was issued belatedly to save face.

In the circumstances, a graceful but succinct declining of the invitation - without explanation or embroidering - seems the best course.

daisymoonlight · 12/04/2024 12:59

Or option 3, if you don't attend, send her nothing. Why would you?

I wouldn't be getting into silly, PA games like accepting the invitation but then not bothering to show up. Bride is rude, granted, but there is no need to resort to equal rudeness

I suspect the PPs above are right in their observation that even the evening invitation wasn't issued until the bride was asked. It's probably a fair assumption that you'd been left off the guest list entirely, and that the invitation was issued belatedly to save face

In the circumstances, a graceful but succinct declining of the invitation - without explanation or embroidering - seems the best course

Agree with all of this. No need to play passive aggressive games back, that just makes you look petty. Politely decline and send a card, thats it. Good grief, you've already spent over £250 on her hen night. You arent obliged to spend any more on gifts. Certainly not on someone who obviously invited you as an after thought. I suspect you were invited to the hen do to keep the costs down for others too and make up the numbers. So rude.

Kissmystarfish · 12/04/2024 13:00

PotatoPudding · 11/04/2024 18:08

Define large? I would consider anything under 60 to be fairly small (people can easily have 20 family members, 4 friends the wedding party and their plus ones) and anything over 90 to be big.

I have know couples really struggle to whittle a guest list down to 60.

In my experience, hen dos are pretty much for all female friends, relatives & colleagues of the bride.

However, you obviously consider yourself a good friend of the bride and you clearly feel hurt. If I were you, I would want to know why I wasn’t invited.

I had 12 people at my wedding! I loved it

Noirdesir · 12/04/2024 13:08

There is no way you are not an afterthought here. You dont have a hen event and then send out wedding invitations a few weeks afterwards. The wedding and evening would have been booked way in advance. She only invited you because you asked and is now making excuses about sending you an invite but its much later than everyone else who has already received theirs!

She wasn't planning to even invite you to the evening, thats obvious. It's incredibly rude to expect someone to spend hundreds on a hen event and then not invite them to the wedding. If you're close enough friends to shell out £250 then you should be a close enough friend to get an invite FGS.

Drop her. She's using you. Dont go to the evening, she never wanted you there.

SloaneStreetVandal · 12/04/2024 13:12

Loulou1902 · 11/04/2024 17:30

I don’t think I was a replacement, but I do think I was a last minute addition to bump up numbers possibly. I thought I was being paranoid at the time, but I think my hunch could’ve been right.

She's not your friend. Given the history, and the fact you were 'good' enough to be at her hen do but not 'good' enough to even know whether or not you were a full day guest, I wouldn't be going to her wedding reception. No questions or drama, just a polite RSVP declining. No need to send a gift either (you're not costing her anything).

SabreIsMyFave · 12/04/2024 13:16

Namerequired · 12/04/2024 12:00

I don’t think you were invited at all until you asked tbh. Then she felt obliged to give an evening invite.
Yanbu to be upset and I wouldn’t go.

Yeah this, and a few other people have said this too. ^

Don't go @Loulou1902 Tell her NOW that you are not going. And as I said before (and many others have said,) give her a wide berth from now on, and then gradually ghost her.

If she asks why you're not going - tell her. Say 'because I am actually pretty pissed off and hurt at not being a good enough friend to you, to be invited to the whole wedding, but at least I know where I stand now eh?' And then block her.

IDGAF if anyone thinks that is a harsh or ridiculous response. I have suffered too many fools and arseholes and people treating me like shit in my lifetime, and I don't tolerate it anymore. If I were the OP, this 'bride-to-be' would have been ghosted and blocked by me already. Like FUCK would I go to her 'night-do,' where all the work colleagues, and neighbours, and acquaintances who mean very little to the bride-to-be will be!

Baffy11 · 12/04/2024 13:22

YANBU. She wanted you at the hen do as that's a display of popularity, so she let you believe you'd be invited to the whole thing (along with most of the other hens, I expect). She should have had the decency to tell you you'd only be an evening invite - before - you shelled out for the hen do. I really wouldn't bother going to the evening....

Brefugee · 12/04/2024 13:24

I'd be very annoyed and decline the invitation if i didn't want to go (but then I'm not like other MNetters in that i LOVE weddings, the whole thing)

I thought it was normal to invite people to your hen-do who would be going to the wedding. Asking evening guests before letting them know they are evening guests smacks of wanting the numbers to subsidise your hen party. Very tacky.

Mnk711 · 12/04/2024 13:28

If it was me I wouldn't go unless you really value the relationship as not going does send a signal.

You asked why invite you to the hen and baby shower but not the wedding. I'd imagine it's because at the hen and baby shower you are paying for yourself (and her?) whereas for the wedding she's paying for you. You're a good enough friend that she values your company but not so much she wants to pay £100 (or whatever per guest cost is) for it.

Sorry, these things can be very painful.

Iwant2beJessicaFletcher · 12/04/2024 13:39

I wouldnt speak to her about it, but wouldnt be attending either.

Shes shown you she doesnt consider you a good enough friend to be invited to her 'large' wedding (if it was a small intimate affair that would be different) so I would no longer consider her a good enough friend to go to her hen do and wouldn't embarrass myself in front of other friends going that I was only invited to the 2nd tier of the wedding - the evening bit.

I know others would react differently but if you consider her a good friend, this is confirmation that she doesnt feel the same as you.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 12/04/2024 13:39

I can’t understand anyone thinking it’s all fine and good for you to shell out £250 for the hen do, but you’re not valued enough to invite to the whole wedding. I’d be upset too, OP - and I’d be deleting her from the ‘close friends’ list.
Not to mention re-thinking any wedding present I was planning. If they’re wanting cash, I’d be making that a big fat zero.

Americano75 · 12/04/2024 13:48

Another vote for don't go here. God, no.

NeedToChangeName · 12/04/2024 13:49

Don't beg for an invite to the day

Evening - go if you'll enjoy it. Decline if you won't

Friendship - yes it's always horrible to realise someone doesn't feel as close to you as you thought. Suck it up. Keep it to yourself. Re-calibrate the friendship in your own head

Hullabalooza · 12/04/2024 13:54

I’d accept the evening invite but not go. Fuck her she can pay an extra per head on the evening catering. Don’t send apologies, just be prepared with an excuse afterwards if she asks, such as “oh sorry I’ve been meaning to text you, I was full of cold that weekend”.
In the mean time I’d stop any contact, and if she contacts you just keep it cool and civil. Ie. If she messages suggesting meeting up, reply with “yes we must sort something” but DON’T sort anything. Gradually phase her out and focus your energies on people who reciprocate.

betterangels · 12/04/2024 13:58

spacehoppercommuter · 12/04/2024 11:19

This. I wouldnt waste any more thought on this at all. You thought you two were good friends, now you have new information that she doesnt see you like that. Expecting someone to shell out £250 on a hen do and no invite to the wedding when it's big and lots of people are going is crazy rude behaviour.

Therefore, I would not go to the evening event. I would not waste any more money or energy on this person. I wouldnt meet for coffee and I wouldnt be snarky about it either. I'd simply send a so sorry we cant make it reply and then I'd drop the rope entirely. Have a great evening doing whatever you want to do and spend the money on yourself instead.

Agree with all of this.

PurplePattern · 12/04/2024 14:21

Noirdesir · 12/04/2024 13:08

There is no way you are not an afterthought here. You dont have a hen event and then send out wedding invitations a few weeks afterwards. The wedding and evening would have been booked way in advance. She only invited you because you asked and is now making excuses about sending you an invite but its much later than everyone else who has already received theirs!

She wasn't planning to even invite you to the evening, thats obvious. It's incredibly rude to expect someone to spend hundreds on a hen event and then not invite them to the wedding. If you're close enough friends to shell out £250 then you should be a close enough friend to get an invite FGS.

Drop her. She's using you. Dont go to the evening, she never wanted you there.

So sorry OP, unfortunately I do agree with the above. I feel really sorry for you, because it does hurt. And I think she should have been a lot more understanding when you were going through it with ex and baby. Focus your time and energy on the people in your life that are your real friends💐

ScribblingPixie · 12/04/2024 14:27

Reading both your posts, it seems like your behaviour in the past, no matter how understandable, means that she's downgraded your friendship. You could accept this invitation with good grace in the hope that you can rebuild your friendship further. Or you could let it drift onwards and perhaps towards more distant if it feels more natural. It's your choice, really.

Illstartexercisingtomorrow · 12/04/2024 14:30

Loulou1902 · 11/04/2024 17:20

Thanks for all of your replies, it’s been really helpful. I think everyone’s right, I have no right to question her or what’s made her decide to only invite me to the evening. However I feel a little embarrassed being the only long term friend to arrive on my own in the evening, so I’ll have to have a think what to do.

When I say we’ve had our moments, I’m referring to a time about 3 years ago when I was experiencing post seperation abuse from an ex who had just thrown me and my 3 month old daughter out. He was harassing me with texts and calls and things were pretty toxic for a year or so whilst we went back and forth, so I wasn’t great at replying to people at the time and didn’t respond to some of her texts for 2-3 weeks. No not great on my part, and on reflection this might’ve really offended her, but juggling a baby and all of that was hard. So yes, I may have really upset her being so distant at the time, I do get that. I did sit down and open up about everything that had been going on and she started crying telling me she’s sorry this happened to me and she only wants to see me happy.

After that, I never heard anything from her and I just got abrupt one line replies when I tried to reach out. After a year or so of no contact we met up as a mutual friend was visiting back home (this was about 18 months ago). She was fine with me and we started to rebuild things, and now it feels just like it was before. She even said recently that she gets it now she has a child and would’ve probably been the same. We text most weeks and see each other at least once a month, and have done for the last year.

Maybe I did too much damage, I don’t know. But why then invite me to her baby shower and hen do if I’m that bad of a friend? I’ve been really supportive of her the last 18 months, and always have been, with the exception of that year when I wasn’t in a good place myself. I’ve dropped shopping round for her after she had her baby recently, invited her round for lunches, gave her all my little girls baby clothes to help her out because she was finding it expensive getting all new clothes, and have messaged her regularly to check how’s she’s doing. There’s also 2 occasions recently when I invited her round for coffee and she failed to turn up, twice in one week, because she forgot. Again, I was ok with that because I get it, mum life is busy.

I guess it hurts most though because I thought I was as good a friend to her as she is to me, but that’s obviously not the case. Lesson learnt and will be taking a step back from now on.

Sorry for the essay reply. Thanks again for all of your opinions on this! It’s been a big help 😊

FML am I reading this right?

You suffered abuse with a 3 mth old in tow and she’s got the hump with you for not responding quickly to texts?

You should have read her the riot act for being the world’s shittest friend for not supporting you better after she found out, and she should be grovelling for her appalling behaviour.

She hasn’t been your friend for some time.

Brefugee · 12/04/2024 14:31

I've re-read your posts, OP. You pissed her off by being too slow to reply to her while you were going through actual trauma?

Find better friends. Sorry, it's a harsh lesson.

Lollybridge · 12/04/2024 14:33

you can’t ask her about it vs. If you are friends you should be able to ask her

If this is a good friend who you'd normally discuss things with why is this off limits? Not a coffee summit meeting but a text or phone call? Make it jokey or couch it in a 'sorry, I've offended you' ruse but you can raise the subject surely?

She'd probably say there's a numbers issue or something. It sounds like the friendship has declined and she must know if she was intending not to invite you at all that it would be the end of the friendship. What I don't get is why you were invited to the hen do in that case? What was she like with you then?

Basically, I'd only go to the evening do if there were other friends I wanted to socialise with there, forget the bride.....she's forgotten you!