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So who do you want to be the next Mayor of London?

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Theinjuredcleaner · 30/03/2024 10:57

It's Count Binface/Lord Buckethead for me. I don't think he could do a worse job than his predecessors.

So who do you want to be the next Mayor of London?
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JessS1990 · 17/04/2024 17:37

Needspace2023 · 17/04/2024 17:03

Not all knife crime results in death but injury, trauma, ptsd and paranoia leading to more children carrying weapons.
I encourage you to look for the statistics yourself and see how horrific this problem has become.
Also look for statistics on road casualties in London, they are not the priority of issues. Road deaths occur more outside of London.
Believe Sadiq Khan has daughters. Knife crime is a huge worry for those of us with boys and will inhave to drive them around into teenage years to go to football or see friends?Yes, drive.

It is also the case that not all driving crimes result in death, but also injury, trauma ptsd and so on.

JessS1990 · 17/04/2024 17:39

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 17/04/2024 16:59

In 2022 there were 102 fatal road accidents in London and 109 murders.

So roughly similar challenges and so should probably be given similar priority.

Comedycook · 17/04/2024 17:45

JessS1990 · 17/04/2024 17:39

So roughly similar challenges and so should probably be given similar priority.

We could reach 0 road deaths if we banned every vehicle on the road but society would grind to a halt.

As it is, I imagine technology will eventually eradicate this problem. Driverless cars will probably be a lot safer... automatic stopping technology etc.

JessS1990 · 17/04/2024 17:51

Comedycook · 17/04/2024 17:45

We could reach 0 road deaths if we banned every vehicle on the road but society would grind to a halt.

As it is, I imagine technology will eventually eradicate this problem. Driverless cars will probably be a lot safer... automatic stopping technology etc.

We could also reach zero deaths from knife crime if we banned every knife.

I think you might be onto something.

Comedycook · 17/04/2024 17:58

JessS1990 · 17/04/2024 17:51

We could also reach zero deaths from knife crime if we banned every knife.

I think you might be onto something.

It's totally different. Getting in your car and driving somewhere is really quite different to sticking a knife in your bag with ill intent.

I have to say you really do sound quite extreme in your dislike of cars.

Oh and I'm not sure you saw but a previous poster today said how much they dislike their local ltn and what it's done to their area. I'm amazed you haven't asked her if a survey has been done?

Needspace2023 · 17/04/2024 18:00

I suggest those who aren't disturbed and heartbroken by the amount of violent crime amongst young people in London either don't have kids or plan to move away when they have them or when they are small.
It should be a priority. In fact crime overall that has increased over my time as a mother since 2010 needs to be put above all these stupid LTNs and pointless 20 mph routes on main roads which pose no threat or danger.

JessS1990 · 17/04/2024 18:01

Comedycook · 17/04/2024 17:58

It's totally different. Getting in your car and driving somewhere is really quite different to sticking a knife in your bag with ill intent.

I have to say you really do sound quite extreme in your dislike of cars.

Oh and I'm not sure you saw but a previous poster today said how much they dislike their local ltn and what it's done to their area. I'm amazed you haven't asked her if a survey has been done?

But if one were to break the driving laws then one also has ill-intent and the end result can be exactly the same.

Comedycook · 17/04/2024 18:05

JessS1990 · 17/04/2024 18:01

But if one were to break the driving laws then one also has ill-intent and the end result can be exactly the same.

Well no because drivers can also have genuine accidents.

Comedycook · 17/04/2024 18:06

If someone carries a knife, they have one intention in mind. I'd imagine very few people get in their car with the intention to injure or kill.

JessS1990 · 17/04/2024 18:06

Comedycook · 17/04/2024 18:05

Well no because drivers can also have genuine accidents.

Are you disagreeing that breaking driving laws that are designed to keep us all safe shows ill-intent?

Comedycook · 17/04/2024 18:12

JessS1990 · 17/04/2024 18:06

Are you disagreeing that breaking driving laws that are designed to keep us all safe shows ill-intent?

I imagine there's always sorts of scenarios in which accidents happen. From a genuine momentarily lapse in concentration to getting in your car pissed out of your head. That's for the police and courts to decide.

dandeliondandy · 17/04/2024 18:14

kirinm · 17/04/2024 17:26

@dandeliondandy and who has slashed council budgets?

Well, the tossers we have had in charge for the last 13 years obvs BUT there is colossal wastage of money in London - certainly in my borough which has areas of wealth and very deprived areas that would really benefit from having money spent a bit more wisely. I am not having a pop at anyone in particular because honestly, it doesn't matter who gets in, they are all cushioned with huge salaries and all the perks and it doesn't take long for them to lose touch with the common man so to speak. I just don't think Sadiq has wow'ed me and I think there is much to be said about some fresh blood - someone said about capping it at two terms which would be a great idea. It is just that none of them are particularly impressive or charismatic or energetic in what they are setting forth as their vision for London. I mean the thing that really needs to happen most of all in London is the policing and crime prevention because my borough is one of the worst for knife crime and gang related violence.

Comedycook · 17/04/2024 18:16

dandeliondandy · 17/04/2024 13:58

To be honest, it is a really dismal selection of candidates. Agree that Tory woman is batshit! the Lib Dem guy on the ITV 'debate' opened by saying he had saved elephants and was campaigning against Vladimir Putin. Sadiq, well I am not a huge fan and was miffed at the time he was spending more time grandstanding or trying to on the world stage than doing his job in London (when in NYC for example) and the Green lady with the pink hair just doesn't project the professional image that London needs.

I live in a posh bit of NE London and the LTN's have caused havoc. I don't drive myself and use public transport but the high streets near to where I live are bumper to bumper of idling cars and on the rare taxi journeys that I make, I have had to spend more to circumnavigate. It just pushes the traffic onto other roads so it doesn't really solve the problem. Crime and especially knife crime in my borough is off the charts. My area is full of thieves who come in from other places to steal/burgle. I want to see police, many more police and visibly so in all parts of London as a deterrent and also re-open the local police stations. We need proper police who know their patch, talk to the shopkeepers and community, know who the bad eggs are. I guess that like many people, I want an end to waste and money spent on spin and PR and stupid projects that look like crap a couple of years alter and just focus on getting the basics right - policing, housing, greening the city with trees, cleaning up, tackling low level ASB before it develops into something else, services for the elderly/disabled etc

I just don't get the feeling that anything is going to change for the better and with the shower that we have been offered...too depressing! Count Binface is looking more and more attractive as a candidate. Also, hardly any of these people have put forward proper manifesto's that we can read in depth without having to hunt for them. It has all been photo opportunities and soundbites.

Perhaps it is just me but I feel thoroughly disillusioned with the sh*t politicians that we have been landed with nationally and locally.

@JessS1990

You don't want to tell this poster that's she's wrong and ltns are working and is there a survey for her area to prove her thoughts on it?

dandeliondandy · 17/04/2024 18:16

JessS1990 · 17/04/2024 17:51

We could also reach zero deaths from knife crime if we banned every knife.

I think you might be onto something.

You say that but genuinely, I needed to buy a new kitchen knife and trying to buy them now is really difficult because of the knife crime. None on display in M&S, TK Maxx, Sainsbury's and even the posh kitchen shops in Muswell Hill have them in a lockable cabinet behind the till. That is how bad it is now.

JessS1990 · 17/04/2024 18:28

Comedycook · 17/04/2024 18:16

@JessS1990

You don't want to tell this poster that's she's wrong and ltns are working and is there a survey for her area to prove her thoughts on it?

That topic has already been discussed in detail, evidence has been provided that shows that LTNs are effective. Sadly no one has been able to provide and counter evidence, as I would be interested to read it. I am sure if the poster wanted to inform themselves of the effects of LTNs they are capable of scrolling back through the thread.

JessS1990 · 17/04/2024 18:29

dandeliondandy · 17/04/2024 18:16

You say that but genuinely, I needed to buy a new kitchen knife and trying to buy them now is really difficult because of the knife crime. None on display in M&S, TK Maxx, Sainsbury's and even the posh kitchen shops in Muswell Hill have them in a lockable cabinet behind the till. That is how bad it is now.

Interestingly last time I tried to buy a car, the garage had kept it locked as well and supervised me looking at it.

dandeliondandy · 17/04/2024 18:32

JessS1990 · 17/04/2024 18:29

Interestingly last time I tried to buy a car, the garage had kept it locked as well and supervised me looking at it.

Yes but we all know why the knives are locked up! You are talking about a high value item, I am talking about a knife that costs around a tenner.

foxychox · 17/04/2024 18:33

Definitely not Khan, and I live (and have lived for most of my life in London). His policies are divisive to suit his agenda, London is suffering as a result of him not allowing communities to integrate as they have in the past. I don't like any of the candidates but will vote for whomever is most likely to block Khan getting in. One other thing, the waste of money on the "#maaate" campaign shows you exactly who he is

Comedycook · 17/04/2024 18:35

JessS1990 · 17/04/2024 18:28

That topic has already been discussed in detail, evidence has been provided that shows that LTNs are effective. Sadly no one has been able to provide and counter evidence, as I would be interested to read it. I am sure if the poster wanted to inform themselves of the effects of LTNs they are capable of scrolling back through the thread.

She must be like me then.... totally imagining it

JessS1990 · 17/04/2024 18:37

foxychox · 17/04/2024 18:33

Definitely not Khan, and I live (and have lived for most of my life in London). His policies are divisive to suit his agenda, London is suffering as a result of him not allowing communities to integrate as they have in the past. I don't like any of the candidates but will vote for whomever is most likely to block Khan getting in. One other thing, the waste of money on the "#maaate" campaign shows you exactly who he is

Probably this recent opinion poll will help inform your choice.

https://redfieldandwiltonstrategies.com/london-mayoral-election-voting-intention-6-8-april-2024/

London Mayoral Election Voting Intention (6-8 April 2024)

The recent high-profile extension of London’s Ultra-Low Emissions Zone (ULEZ) and the result of the Uxbridge & South Ruislip by-election has …

https://redfieldandwiltonstrategies.com/london-mayoral-election-voting-intention-6-8-april-2024

Comedycook · 17/04/2024 18:40

Khan will definitely win but I personally think that will be not so much a reflection on him but a reflection on the other candidates

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 17/04/2024 18:41

JessS1990 · 17/04/2024 18:06

Are you disagreeing that breaking driving laws that are designed to keep us all safe shows ill-intent?

That’s a silly argument. Of course it doesn’t - necessarily, or even be likely to - show ill intent. A driver going at 25 in a 20 zone is just exceeding the speed limit. It’s easy to do inadvertently. There’s no ill intent there at all. It may well not be the driver’s fault at all if there is then an accident, even if s/he’s speeding.

Carrying and using a knife to injure or kill, absent genuine self-defence, is inevitably ‘ill intent’.

Needspace2023 · 17/04/2024 18:45

@JessS1990 the LTN in Lambeth was so atrociously bad meaning buses were at stand still and kids couldn't get to school and the fumes, that Sadiq Khan intervened to get rid of them.
LTNs need thought, because we are in a city of 8 million not a little village in the shires.
I realize LTNs are put in by councils not the LTNs. But TfL have made some batshit decisions
Again sorting out the crime problems would mean less driving and freedom for women and young people.

JessS1990 · 17/04/2024 18:58

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 17/04/2024 18:41

That’s a silly argument. Of course it doesn’t - necessarily, or even be likely to - show ill intent. A driver going at 25 in a 20 zone is just exceeding the speed limit. It’s easy to do inadvertently. There’s no ill intent there at all. It may well not be the driver’s fault at all if there is then an accident, even if s/he’s speeding.

Carrying and using a knife to injure or kill, absent genuine self-defence, is inevitably ‘ill intent’.

I'd be mighty concerned if a driver could exceed the speed limit by 25% inadvertedly.
No wonder roads are so dangerous.

Comedycook · 17/04/2024 19:01

JessS1990 · 17/04/2024 18:58

I'd be mighty concerned if a driver could exceed the speed limit by 25% inadvertedly.
No wonder roads are so dangerous.

25% over in 20mph zone still means you're travelling at 5mph less than the previous speed limit.

Do you drive by the way?