Thread 39 Sunak - Government by Gaslight

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Government has now confirmed that emergency measures will be used to free up prison spaces The early release scheme has been extended to 35-60 days.

And Johnson is going to be deployed in marginal red wall seats to win votes.

Emergency measures indeed.

It's the product of deliberately avoiding an escalating problem in prisons until it requires new legislation and no doubt a big blank cheque.

Bloody shambolic.

Angela Rayner has been cleared after a police investigation re her council house sale

I bet that will get few headlines.

Hester is a rich, fat, white, racist oaf. I may have been a bit rude there but please don't take my comment out of context, afford me the same consideration that Hester is getting from his poodles. Although I haven't given the Tories a £10,000,000 bung so maybe I'm expecting too much.

It is only Monday. What else will fuck the Tories up this week?

So I wonder how the Minister this morning will cover Lee Anderson and the "definitely not racist or sexist donor"

Hmm. 'Out of context'. 'Remarks made in private many years ago'. 'Didn't mention skin colour'. 'Not at all misogynistic, loves all women because he's a Tory and knows what one is'. 'Jeremy Corbyn. George Galloway. Keirs beer. Angela's house'. Multiple choice for whichever Minister for Utter Lies is wheeled out today.

You know that if comments had been made about someone who was from particular religions and saying that seeing that person made them hate all people from that religion - then there would be outrage and calls for resignations.

And there is no way that spokesperson would say that the comments had nothing to do with religion, even if it was referenced in the comments.

And Gove could gallop in on his white horse shouting "Dangerous extremist'.

Well at least the real Conservative Party is back. I never did believe this newly diverse party existed.

Can't wait for Johnson vs Lee. The BS meter will be off the charts. All the evidence that Reform damage the Conservatives. Their percentage of voting intention keeps going up (6 to 12 percent in the last three months) whereas the Conservatives keep falling and Labour voting intention is static.

I’m not sure I can take another week of ‘his comments were wrong but not racist.’

"Seeing him in TV makes me want to hate all Hindus. He should be shot"
"Seeing her on TV makes me want to hate all Buddhist women. She should be shot"

If a Labour donor had said that about the Prime Minister or Suella Braverman- there would be outrage. And quite rightly.

And if a Labour spokesperson had said it had nothing to do with religion or sex, there would be laughter.

If someone wants to start an AIBU with the above concept, that would be great. I am out today - so wouldn't be able to really start one

I think such a thread would attract all the racists and deliver a lorry load of whataboutery and deflection. I am not brave enough to start it!

The Tory line to take on the morning round is that their £10m donor who said Diane Abbott made him want to hate all black women was not being racist and they’d like to keep the £10m

https://x.com/Haggis_UK/status/1767454266803867789?s=20

And here Stuart is on R4 repeating the same line

https://x.com/BestForBritain/status/1767475061085319380?s=20

Energy minister Graham Stuart APPALLINGLY bad on R4. At one point he says Frank Hester shouldn't be cancelled for something he said 5 years ago.

A reminder that Hester allegedly said looking at Diane Abbott made you ‘want to hate all black women’ and she ‘should be shot’.

Dreadful interviewee. Anyway, I expect wanting to shoot a black woman isn't racist. It's probably "wrong". Like 30p was "wrong" and not racist a couple of weeks ago. So racist Tories, fill your boots, as long as you're just "wrong" when you speak your bile, you're OK.

There is a thread running now, and that whataboutery has begun.

I think Sunak will u turn on this. Eventually.

At the moment Hester has cabinet backing

https://x.com/hzeffman/status/1767473821202718899?s=20

Frank Hester's defence now has cabinet-level backing.

Mel Stride tells broadcasters: “It’s clear that what he said was inappropriate. He has, as I understand it, apologised for those remarks. I think the critical point here is I don’t think what he was saying was a gender-based or a race-based comment, but it was clearly inappropriate. He has apologised and I think we need to move on from that.”

I don't think I can bear to look. The comments I read on here - a women's site - about Diane Abbott are often distressing.

Ridiculous. It is race based. It talked of hatred towards black women.

Mel Stride should be ashamed

£10 million in donations buys you freedom to say whatever you want.

Next stop peerage.

Just to be clear we need to be tough on extremists just not the ones that call for a black female MP to be shot.

We can also be racist to stupid people. This makes it OK. As long as we think they are stupid.