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Thread 39 Sunak - Government by Gaslight

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DuncinToffee · 10/03/2024 10:53

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Piggywaspushed · 20/03/2024 18:45

The whole crucial public sector was not entitled to furlough.

Notonthestairs · 20/03/2024 18:53

We've published our report, ‘Reforming adult social care in England’.

🏥 @DHSCgovuk has no long-term plan to address chronic understaffing or the impacts of patchwork funding on local authorities.

Read our report: publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm5804/cmse…

x.com/commonspac/status/1770344649787334816?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

14 year. It's bloody disgraceful.

AdamRyan · 20/03/2024 18:59

I've just been wading through the Inclusion Panel report - what it said vs what's being reported. Put a thread in FWR but am similarly shocked by the "it'll take years to understand if initiatives are working" aspect.

It's like people are getting memories like goldfish and forgetting just how long these pr0blems have been known about

DuncinToffee · 20/03/2024 19:44

I am not that familiar with the plan but it sounds like it wasn't well thought out in the first place?

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DuncinToffee · 20/03/2024 19:47

Government loses all Rwanda Plan votes

And the fifth vote lost by the Government, by 249 votes to 219, giving added protections to children in disputed age assessments.

The sixth vote - on modern slavery protections - saw Government defeated by 251 to 214 votes.

And a full house: seventh vote lost by Government by 248 to 209 votes on the so-called Arap amendment exempting Afghans who worked with the British from the Rwanda deportation scheme

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medianewbie · 20/03/2024 20:14

@DuncinToffee I'm delighted that the Govt has lost all 7 votes on Rwanda but what a shower of utter (criminal) sh$$$ they are to waste so much money on such a rotten (in all senses) policy.

BIossomtoes · 20/03/2024 20:17

Absolutely. The amount of time and money they’re wasting on this is criminal.

itsgettingweird · 20/03/2024 20:41

pointythings · 20/03/2024 18:00

Well, as an NHS worker (not frontline) I was absolutely not furloughed. Just working 10 hour days. But hey, who cares?

Education here.

I wasn't in school when I had covid.

But was in and happy to be in throughout the holidays to support those needing childcare whilst also keyworkers.

The irony being we didn't get paid for those extra hours or paid 80% of pay to do nothing.

But hey. We are all just lazy fuckers who want an undeserved payrise in the public sector. What a difference 4 years makes from being "key" to the country to apparently being a drain on its financial resources.

fabio12 · 20/03/2024 20:43

Just clicked on the X link to the furlough gaslight on The Conservatives page and on the right hand side bar under "see other accounts like this" it actually had The National Front.

The AI don't lie...

itsgettingweird · 20/03/2024 20:43

Just realised my comment about furlough sounded awful didn't mean do nothing like I'm picking on furloughed workers. WineBlush

More that those in public sector worked extra for nothing and are now called greedy fuckers for political gain.

InMySpareTime · 20/03/2024 20:52

I got a very small amount of SEISS (not sure if they're counting me in the furlough payment numbers), DH switched to WFH so furlough didn't apply to him.
Is it just me, or was the blue in that poster a bit more Reform than Tory?

TooBigForMyBoots · 20/03/2024 21:43

DuncinToffee · 20/03/2024 19:47

Government loses all Rwanda Plan votes

And the fifth vote lost by the Government, by 249 votes to 219, giving added protections to children in disputed age assessments.

The sixth vote - on modern slavery protections - saw Government defeated by 251 to 214 votes.

And a full house: seventh vote lost by Government by 248 to 209 votes on the so-called Arap amendment exempting Afghans who worked with the British from the Rwanda deportation scheme

Hahahahahahaha.

L1ttledrummergirl · 20/03/2024 22:56

Omg, watching Philip Davies on Newsnight.

The bloke in my opinion after watching this, is such a twat, he is deluded- said Rwanda will take everyone and there is no other option than to deport to a third country. He kept saying illegal migrants. I like Victoria Derbyshire usually, but she didn't pick him up on it.

The merry-go-round starts up again. Who's turn is it tomorrow to be othered?
This government is out of talent, out of ideas and out of time. No wonder the country is fucked.

newnamethanks · 21/03/2024 07:57

Happily, John Crace is recovering and back at work in the Guardian, doing what he does best, excoriating this vile government and all its works, also praising the collapsing NHS for saving his life. Some good news in the bleak world they've reduced our lives to.

Notonthestairs · 21/03/2024 08:38

Labour lead at 25 points in latest YouGov poll for The Times

CON 19 (-1)

LAB 44 (=)

LIB DEM 9 (=)

REF UK 15 (+1)

GRN 8 (+1)

Fieldwork 19 - 20 March

x.com/lara_spirit/status/1770685592264700387?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

Obviously the Conservatives won't look at the numbers and think Hhhmmm maybe we need to be more centrist. No, they'll be scrabbling around for more r/w policies because that will help.

Notonthestairs · 21/03/2024 08:51

Slightly amazed that Sunak has given his MPs the nod to bunk off Parliamentary business for the next week. One line whip - they are free to go back to constituency business or go on holiday.

Pushed the urgent Rwanda bill to mid April.

It's almost like there is nothing for them to do.

Then I realised that he probably doesn't want them gathering together too much - what's a good way to fend off a plot? Send them home.

bombastix · 21/03/2024 08:56

It's that Reform vote that is growing. The Conservative Party is being eaten from left and right.

They absolutely did this to themselves. They will never be right wing enough for Reform and the centre voters are repulsed by racism, incompetence and financial foolishness.

They will only recover once they have regained their middle Tory middle England voters who are repulsed by them. It says so much that they would rather stay at home or vote Labour. They sold themselves for some voters in the North. It has been a mistake as these voters are extremely fickle and they have lost their middle England base.

In another world the Conservatives would make Boris Johnson persona non grata for effectively making them the thicko party rather than Labour. Alas they are now equally dim and so this is not possible now

bombastix · 21/03/2024 08:58

Notonthestairs · 21/03/2024 08:51

Slightly amazed that Sunak has given his MPs the nod to bunk off Parliamentary business for the next week. One line whip - they are free to go back to constituency business or go on holiday.

Pushed the urgent Rwanda bill to mid April.

It's almost like there is nothing for them to do.

Then I realised that he probably doesn't want them gathering together too much - what's a good way to fend off a plot? Send them home.

Better nothing than drama by a group of increasing nervous and selfish people who are barely occupied and in a place with a large amount of cheap alcohol. Parliament is currently like Weatherspoons

Notonthestairs · 21/03/2024 09:04

"They absolutely did this to themselves. They will never be right wing enough for Reform and the centre voters are repulsed by racism, incompetence and financial foolishness. "

Yes. When I think of all that parliamentary time, media attention and tax payers money - all they've achieved is to diminish themselves.

DuncinToffee · 21/03/2024 09:16

L1ttledrummergirl · 20/03/2024 22:56

Omg, watching Philip Davies on Newsnight.

The bloke in my opinion after watching this, is such a twat, he is deluded- said Rwanda will take everyone and there is no other option than to deport to a third country. He kept saying illegal migrants. I like Victoria Derbyshire usually, but she didn't pick him up on it.

The merry-go-round starts up again. Who's turn is it tomorrow to be othered?
This government is out of talent, out of ideas and out of time. No wonder the country is fucked.

He is married to Esther McVey and the two of them claim £1,625 a month each in rent for flats less than a mile apart, costing the taxpayer over £250,000 in total.

I am sure the are enjoying their Easter holidays

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InMySpareTime · 21/03/2024 09:22

But, but, I thought it was (checks notes) bad and wrong for a married couple to live in two separate homes, and legally they can only have one property. Or was that only when it was Angela Rayner?
Perhaps we have a new But Jeremy Corbyn argument...

IClaudine · 21/03/2024 09:57

Will there be a police investigation?

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