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Thread 39 Sunak - Government by Gaslight

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DuncinToffee · 10/03/2024 10:53

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DuncinToffee · 18/03/2024 09:11

Zonder · 18/03/2024 09:04

What time is Sunak's speech? Or did I blink and miss it?

from Sky News

PM delivering major speech at 10.25amLater this morning,

Prime Minister Rishi Sunak will deliver a speech in Warwickshire on his plans to boost apprenticeships for young people.
He will pledge to create up to 20,000 more apprenticeships with plans to fully fund training and cut red tape for small businesses.
Mr Sunak will set out a package of reforms he claims "will unlock a tidal wave of opportunity" at a conference for small firms.
Underpinned by £60m of new investment for next year, the government will pay the full cost of apprenticeships for under-21s in small businesses from 1 April.

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newnamethanks · 18/03/2024 09:15

And, while on the subject of the bloke who's bought the Tory party, how much influence does £15m+ buy you in the parliamentary party? If the principle shareholder- currently Frank Hester it seems - hates all black women what of Kemi's future leadership prospects? Obviously he's not alone in his hate. Sending her out to humiliate herself, in everyones eyes but her own, is very unkind but that's the Nasty Party for you. More fool her for buying the lot, wholesale.

LittleBowSheep · 18/03/2024 09:56

What a truly awful interview by Badenoch. She'd said the comments were racist, but that was last week and now it's time to move on. She has totally betrayed all black women this morning. Disgraceful.

RafaistheKingofClay · 18/03/2024 10:14

DuncinToffee · 18/03/2024 09:11

from Sky News

PM delivering major speech at 10.25amLater this morning,

Prime Minister Rishi Sunak will deliver a speech in Warwickshire on his plans to boost apprenticeships for young people.
He will pledge to create up to 20,000 more apprenticeships with plans to fully fund training and cut red tape for small businesses.
Mr Sunak will set out a package of reforms he claims "will unlock a tidal wave of opportunity" at a conference for small firms.
Underpinned by £60m of new investment for next year, the government will pay the full cost of apprenticeships for under-21s in small businesses from 1 April.

Oh look free employees. This has got to be the worst idea since workfare.

RafaistheKingofClay · 18/03/2024 10:17

Or if not free, at least very cheap.

LlynTegid · 18/03/2024 10:39

Better to have apprenticeships as long as it leads to real jobs and those taken on don't end up being thrown out at the end of them or shortly afterwards.

Though why it has taken almost two years since Mr Sunak became Prime Minister smacks of desperation to keep some of the Tory gains outside London and the South East.

AdamRyan · 18/03/2024 10:52

They are trying to outmanoeuvre Labour after Labour said they would focus on worklessness in 18-25 year olds.
It's pathetic hot air. Why are they announcing it so quickly after the budget if not?

Piggywaspushed · 18/03/2024 11:04

Just seen that Ofcom have ruled 5 GB News broadcasts broke rules...

newnamethanks · 18/03/2024 11:06

Only 5? Closer look required surely?

Grapesarenottheonlyfruit · 18/03/2024 11:08

AdamRyan · 18/03/2024 10:52

They are trying to outmanoeuvre Labour after Labour said they would focus on worklessness in 18-25 year olds.
It's pathetic hot air. Why are they announcing it so quickly after the budget if not?

Oh yes and then the usual cheerleaders will be around to tell us that Labour have no policies.
I wonder where all these apprenticeships will be ? My son was looking for one in IT for after A levels but there were hardly any in our area. Ended up going to uni which kind of defeated the object.
What we did notice was the proliferation of private training companies who claim to provide them but when you apply for them they never seem to exist…..he had decent GCSEs and okayish A’levels but never got a sniff.

Cornettoninja · 18/03/2024 11:34

Rishi Sunak launches 'fightback' with seven-minute speech at business event as allies warn PM will call snap election if Tory MPs try to oust him - amid anger at 'on manoeuvres' Penny Mordaunt

from the daily mail…

This is like that step one warning. Don’t you threaten me with a good time!!

Alexandra2001 · 18/03/2024 11:52

RafaistheKingofClay · 18/03/2024 10:17

Or if not free, at least very cheap.

Thatcher did this in the 80s, 6/12 month schemes, paid for by the govt, these often led to employers using kids to do menial tasks before getting rid and a new face.

The Youth Training Scheme (YTS) was an on-the-job training course for school leavers aged 16 and 17, managed by the Manpower Services Commission. The Scheme was brought into operation in 1983 by the Conservative Government to replace the Youth Opportunities Programme

Employers are simply not going to invest in an employee on short term political schemes (that can change on a whim i.e by the next GE in less than 12 months time) and where the trained person can go elsewhere for far more money.

He and the Tories have had 14 years to unleash a tidal wave of opportunity..... the guy is an idiot, even Thatcher got on with her version within 4 years.

IClaudine · 18/03/2024 11:54

Agree with @Alexandra2001

Saucery · 18/03/2024 12:18

I have family members who were unfortunate enough to be on YTS and YTS-type providers. Absolutely fucking useless waste of time and where they got to in their careers had nothing to do with being siloed into a prefab warehouse and taught badly by failed tradespeople.
I hope to god this new plan is better than that but I seriously doubt it.

countrygirl99 · 18/03/2024 12:29

I was in audit at the time of YTS and witnessed how some employers ruthlessly exploited YTS. Some had bugger all training and were dumped as soon as the YTS funding stopped only to be replaced with a new YTS.

IClaudine · 18/03/2024 12:38

This made me laugh!

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Zonder · 18/03/2024 12:43

😂

BIossomtoes · 18/03/2024 13:10

😭

fabio12 · 18/03/2024 13:46

The Kemi situation just really shows the public how much gas lighting the Tories are doing, even to their own party. I am sure even the foaming at the mouth racists can see they've wheeled her out, purely as a black woman, to say "nothing to see here". It doesn't make the racists feel good, it probably makes them angry she isn't upset but also doesn't make them feel the Tories are their safe spot. It makes everyone with a brain have to admit this party is the party of liars, is all. Really odd move. At least Kemi cannot be said to be unaware of her role in the party now as a racist white-washer.

It's going to be fun watching Rishi try to placate the ERG while they do political donuts around him with Penny in the front passenger jeering out of the window. Buckle up!

tobee · 18/03/2024 14:06

cakeorwine · 18/03/2024 08:35

Nothing to see here.
Move on

Is this in reference to Kemi Badenoch or Rishi Sunak's speech today? 🤔

L1ttledrummergirl · 18/03/2024 15:28

My first job was 6 weeks working in a well known holiday park as a cleaner for £125 a week. When we left, the careers office planned to send my friend back there, to do the same job for £25 a week on yts.

To be fair, my dh did the scheme and was offered a job after as a general builder/bricklayer.

This scheme sounds as though taxpayers are subsidising employers though. What are the odds people will be kept on when the employer has invested £0 in them and the next free chump is ready?

newnamethanks · 18/03/2024 15:34

Quite. This kind of fiddle is usually employed earlier in the reign to get the unemployment figures down. I'm surprised they've left it so late.

BIossomtoes · 18/03/2024 16:16

newnamethanks · 18/03/2024 15:34

Quite. This kind of fiddle is usually employed earlier in the reign to get the unemployment figures down. I'm surprised they've left it so late.

They’re desperate.

Saucery · 18/03/2024 16:53

YouGov chat polling to see who thinks KB would be a good PM Hmm

bombastix · 18/03/2024 16:57

Saucery · 18/03/2024 16:53

YouGov chat polling to see who thinks KB would be a good PM Hmm

Haha

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