What happened in the House of Commons tonight?

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I'm struggling to understand what is going on and would be grateful is someone can explain to me in simple terms.

Why were Labour worried about the safety of MPs?

Why were the SNP unhappy?

Why were the Tories unhappy?

What's likely to happen next?

Are MPs who don't take a Pro-Palestinian stance really putting their lives at risk?

His acolytes sniffing around for his job are no improvement 🙄

I was hoping they'd all been flushed out along with Corbyn

Surely drakeford has just succumbed to the family stress, first his son then covid. In covid he did the whole closing aisles thing, he's just completely worn out.

Maybe have a look at what Truss, Anderson and Braverman have been saying

It's not "drinking Kool Aid" to see how Labour have treated gender critical members, up to and including ejection. It's not "drinking Kool Aid" to note that Starmer refuses to define a woman when challenged to.

Not according to insiders at the senedd. He's got form going back to his days as health minister.

At least they're free to speak.

This.

It was a UK gov debate with SNP MPs in the HoC so yes they could. What an ignorant comment.

Ah, right, got you.

You have seen what they have been saying, I assume.

Yes, I don't have to agree but they've a right to an opinion don't you think.

Quite. Who wouldn't want more CoL increases, increasingly extremist rhetoric and public money being siphoned to support rich Tories. Oh yes, and the ability to break the law in "limited and specific" circumstances and lie continuously. Sounds like just what we need.

You are weirdly aggressive.

Scroll back to @LimeViewer post who made the best point on the thread.

Opinion, yes

Spouting hatred and racism on national TV, in a national newspaper, on international stage, no

We will wait and see what Sunak's reaction will be.

I do love Starmer. I think he's a principled man, I'm impressed he managed to unite the party post Corbyn and crack down on anti semitism. He's built a great team around him and has policies I really like, such as halving violence against women and girls, VAT on private school fees (which are a luxury IMO) and taxing non doms properly. I think he's great and I'm not ashamed of that.

Based on other threads we've been on, you love Braverman and Rwanda, so hardly impartial. At least I'm transparent where my support is, so people can judge my posts in that context.

The SNP and the Conservatives did not give MPs or the public the option they actually want, which is a ceasefire and condemnation of Hamas. That was Labour's position. Why do you think party politics should trump "the will of the people" in the case of the Gaza war?

The snp used the words collective punishment. Whilst I agree personally, that is an accusation of war crimes which the UN has not accepted as yet, plus we are allied with Israel and provide many of their weapons.
If 100 labour mps agreed with this motion so it passed we would be going beyond the UN and saying the UK gov thinks Israel is commiting at least war crimes if not genocide.
Which they probably are. But we can't say that!

Don't be gross and maybe have some respect. Honestly 🙄

Hence why labour were determined not to let the public see that happen. It undermines the confidence in Keir on the world stage as a potential leader. And his lack of control of the party, that his mps either don't get it or don't care.

You really do like to try to shut down facts with emotional blackmail. It's a mean trait. Try persuading with arguments instead of emotions.

Haha again no 😂

I don’t particularly love politicians no

I take an interest in some politics and economics and discuss it on a chat forum

I likely have different views on various things but that’s the point of a forum otherwise you may as well join a Labour I love Starmer FB page and hear no other views

As for transparent I don’t hide my views, why bother doing that

I feel sorry for Starmer some of his MPs Sheesh. They fight like ferrets in a sack with each other.

Holding any political party together these days is a thankless task.

This is it. Out of all the rehashing of typical insults on the thread this was worth the insight

If you genuinely concerned about following conventions you'd have been equally angry when May/Johnson/Truss ignored them.

Right. So you weren't busy posting that we should listen to one Australian MP as the authoritative source on why Rwanda was necessary? You don't hang out on FWR claiming Badenoch is right?

Honestly. I'm transparent about my views. Why don't you do the same? It's pretty clear you love the Tories. Stick to your principles, everyone is entitled to a view. No need to be ashamed.

I think what I'm taking from this thread is right wing posters have nothing left to argue. Election tomorrow please so this stops. Its ridiculous.