What happened in the House of Commons tonight?

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I'm struggling to understand what is going on and would be grateful is someone can explain to me in simple terms.

Why were Labour worried about the safety of MPs?

Why were the SNP unhappy?

Why were the Tories unhappy?

What's likely to happen next?

Are MPs who don't take a Pro-Palestinian stance really putting their lives at risk?

He is a massive misogynist.

Anyone suggesting Labour are more divided than the Tories is fully delusional.

Not sure that sort of tit for tat nonsense is a good idea but you do you.

@Newchapterbeckons that isn't what @MushMonster said.

I agree with you, he was able to avoid it, but the region is not likely to stop having conflict

Many of his MPs clearly feel strongly on something not aligned to what the U.K. gov can say

And that you did not spot the whole anti-semitism in my post shows me all YOUR agenda and who YOU are.
But, I am here to share opinions with others. Not to take personal remarks, not to chase posters.
Enjoy your chasing, though I think this kind of hunting is rather dull.

How many 'families' are they on now? PopCon makes 6?

Do you think it isn’t collective punishment?
I mean, I think the wording is silly because it’s overstepping Westminster’s remit, but are you really surprised people might agree?

I see you.

And you live…?
You could lie obvs.
What misogyny are you seeing?

It’s not tit for tat. It’s just pointing out the hypocrisy of people who excuse Johnson (he’s not even really called Boris, it’s an act) while criticising others for much, much less.

What, because he said TWAW? That doesn't make him a misogynist.

I think he is a decent man.

Anyone who thinks that TWAW is automatically a misogynist but I was actually thinking more of this unedifying insight in to his thinking:

https://twitter.com/cathydevine56/status/1656192305647190018

The point being that following the precedent couldn't deliver the outcome. And that Hoyle as speaker has absolute discretion over what bills are read when, as shown in Goldsmiths letter. Which means he can choose not to follow precedent and still comply with the rules.
I think he decided the outcome in this case was more important than following precedent, and I agree with him.

Who is excusing him?

And the "ceasefire but condemn hamas" outcome is the consensus view of MPs and the public, so in my opinion the process fails if that can't be represented as an outcome of the debate.

Well, if I was 100% convinced the vast majority of Labour MPs and party are not of any discriminatory nature at all, I am more convinced now. All this noise that they are struggling to keep together because issues like racism, sexism, anti-semitism or others is just pushed by people who love exaggerating, dramatising and pretending their better than others, or who have promoting other parties as an agenda. Nothing more.

Blimey this is like pulling teeth.
Anyone who says pointing out his failings when someone else does something less bad is implicitly excusing him.

He said he was "not going to get drawn in to the shrill and deliberately divisive debate that the member continuously attempts to raise".

How is that misogyny?

That is a major leap though isn't it?

I do not excuse Johnson any of his failings but also think it will be ridiculous to pull out 'But Boris...' when Starmer inevitably fucks up.

As I said above, I think that that is tit for tat bullshit. Comparing the two is pointless and gets nobody anywhere, but as I also said above, you do you.

No, @Dogfisher its not a leap.
I think everyone sensible should remind everyone until approximately the end of time how venal the Johnson era (and I include the current lot in that) Tories are/were. It shouldn’t be forgotten or swept under the carpet as ‘all in the past’.

You think that calling a woman asking a perfectly reasonable question 'shrill' is not misogyny?
You think that labelling her concerns for women's rights and safety a 'dogwhistle' to the far right is not misogyny?

Fucking hell. 🙄Ok then.

Well I am sure that we can all rely on posters such as yourself dragging out Johnson over and over to detract from the fuck up that Starmer is going to make.
Whatever makes you feel good.

And this is exactly why the Labour Party deserve to implode.