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Can’t bring myself to notify my dads friend of his death

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bahhamburgers · 17/02/2024 09:14

My dad died a few weeks ago. Particularly horrible death at the end of three long years with dementia, the last two in a care home. It’s just me, only family so I’ve had to fight every step of the way for him. I am exhausted from it. I sat next to him for his last three days/nights and was with him when he died.

My mum died when I was a young child and he met a woman when I was 14, she absolutely hated me and was just vile. They never lived together or married but were friends for 30 odd years. I left home at 16 and never had anything to do with her again really.

Two years ago when it was apparent that my dad, who was then 84 was getting ill (she is 20 years younger than him, for context, so not an elderly lady herself). I called her begged her for Help with him. There is no one else. No other family or friends. She refused. And she told me all sorts of horrible things, about how much he hated me, all the awful things he had said about me since I was young, how over the last few years he had been saying what an evil person I am. I ended up having to hang up. I’d already been though a year of hell begging HCP and social care for help, I couldn’t take being told how terrible I am on top of all that.

I was so upset, I hung up. She doesn’t have my contact details and my dad was too far gone to use his phone anymore and went into a care home the next week. we had tried him living with us, but my youngest child was a baby and it was too dangerous, we had a couple of close calls and I had to put my children’s safety first.

When he died, I had to call a couple of other friends that he’d left instructions to call. The same thing. They told me that he was always saying what a terrible person I am, how horrible I was to him, that I never bothered with him, how I never saw him (we saw him every week, I nursed him though cancer, he stayed with me during recovery from cancer ops, he told people I hadn’t bothered with him).

Why these people felt the need to tell me those things when I was calling them to tell them my father had died two days previously and I was crying, I’ll never know. It wasn’t true.

I don’t blame him though. From reading things he’d written over the last decade, I think the dementia had been present for a long time. He just hid it well. And I have learned no one would have cared anyway. I took him to his GP in desperation, he was sat there saying what a nice cruise ship it was and the GP kept insisting he was fine, just depressed. He ended up in hospital, hallucinating that aliens had taken the place over and social workers kept telling me he was fine and they had no concerns. So this was a long time coming. I think he was telling people I hated him so they would look after him on the days I couldn’t.

Anyway, I need to tell that woman. He would have wanted me to. He asked me to in a letter he wrote a few years ago.

I just can’t face the barrage of shit I know she will unleash. I don’t need to hear yet again how much my dad hated me. I’ve been though hell for him over the last few years. I’ve missed half my toddlers life dealing with everything (he was abused in one care home, I had to deal with it all, again, no one really cared).

Dh said he would do it. But part of me wants to scream how much I’ve been though. not just the last few years, but looking after him my whole bloody life.

Sorry this is so long.

If I was this awful person who hated him, believe me, I would have had a much easier life. I loved him so much.
I have to believe he was saying all that for attention (he’s been saying awful things about me since I was a teenager, according to all these dickheads who thought it was appropriate to tell me that), and it got worse when dementia started.

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TigerOnTour · 17/02/2024 09:17

Just text her the factual info. X died at y time on z date

Rocknrollstar · 17/02/2024 09:17

Your dad did not hate you and you were definitely a good daughter. This was his illness talking. I had the same thing with a friend of mine and it took me a long time to convince her that the person saying these awful things was unwell. Do you have to phone people? Can you put a notice in the local paper or email or write to them?

Brenna24 · 17/02/2024 09:18

I am so sorry that you went through all of this. My mind boggles as to why people thought it was appropriate to say those things to you.

My mind went to the dementia being there lover than diagnosed when you said he was saying these things before you said that you thought that he had the dementia a lot longer than his diagnosis. It was the dementia saying those things, not him. Get your husband to do the telling for you if you really feel you need to do it. You have done enough.

OldTinHat · 17/02/2024 09:19

Have you got an email address or mobile number for her? If yes, then just send a message stating blunt facts and then block her so you don't get a backlash.

FortunataTagnips · 17/02/2024 09:19

I really wouldn’t bother. She wasn’t there when he needed her, she was awful to you. Sod her.

OldTinHat · 17/02/2024 09:21

Btw, I'm so very sorry for your loss and you have this to navigate too. Flowers

mamacorn1 · 17/02/2024 09:22

I wouldn’t go there at all. I wouldn’t tell her. She is not falling over herself to check on him and she knows he is very ill

sorry for your loss OP.

guinnessguzzler · 17/02/2024 09:24

So sorry to hear of everything you have been through. It can be incredibly hard caring for someone with dementia and it sounds like you had particularly difficult circumstances. If you have her address, perhaps you could write her a letter. I'd write two letters, one saying all the things you want to say and the other just letting her know the facts. Then ask your husband to take them both out of the house but just post the factual one.

Also, I'm not sure if you have had the funeral yet but in your position I wouldn't tell her until after that.

caringcarer · 17/02/2024 09:24

TigerOnTour · 17/02/2024 09:17

Just text her the factual info. X died at y time on z date

This. There is no need for anything more.

StripeyDeckchair · 17/02/2024 09:24

You don't have to tell that woman anything.
She disappeared when your father was ill with dementia so she wasn't much of a friend.
Protect your mental health and continue with your life & grieve for your Dad in whatever way works for you.

bahhamburgers · 17/02/2024 09:25

I kind of understand why.

To them, he was a lovely old man who had a terrible daughter who abandoned him and didn’t care about him. They could only go on what he told them. They didn’t know me.

They were angry that I suddenly called out the blue to tell them he had died after three years of him disappearing off the face of the Earth - I had to move 3 hours away due to money 4 years ago, when he started getting bad, we brought him here to try and live with us, but he went disown hill so fast, with three children in the house and one just a baby, it wasn’t safe so he had to go into a care home. Me and dh couldn’t keep everyone safe, he was acting unpredictable, never sleeping, trying to cook at night, leaving medication around. Someone could have been killed.

what stings though is this woman told me he was always saying I was horrible, even when I was a teenager.

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bahhamburgers · 17/02/2024 09:25

He only left a landline. I don’t have email or mobile details.

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TheSlantedOwl · 17/02/2024 09:26

No you don’t have to tell her anything. You don’t owe her anything. She’s a hateful, spiteful person. If you want to let her know just to ‘have done with it’ then get your DH to do it.

I don’t blame you for wanting to let loose and blast her with your truth. His friends sound like absolute arseholes.

TheSlantedOwl · 17/02/2024 09:27

Ps I’d be tempted to get DH to say that your dad said what an awful fucking bitch she was and how she’d let him down.

bahhamburgers · 17/02/2024 09:28

FortunataTagnips · 17/02/2024 09:19

I really wouldn’t bother. She wasn’t there when he needed her, she was awful to you. Sod her.

This is what dh said.

I begged her to help. Dh was willing to go and collect her 3 hours away, despite never having met her, she wouldn’t have had to pay to travel or stay anywhere.

He last words before I hung up were “put him in a home and forget about him, you are evil, you have always been evil, that’s what you will do anyway.”

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Myglassishalffullish · 17/02/2024 09:28

I’m so sorry for your loss and for all of the anguish and nastiness that you have endured throughout your Dad’s life and illness.
You have done everything you possible can for your dad and more; you have no need to feel guilty about how you feel or about any decisions that you now make that will have absolutely no impact on your Dad now whatsoever.
You owe his friend nothing.
Who said what to who about whoever is of no consequence.

If you feel you need to tell her about your Dad and take the opportunity to tell her what you think of her as a form of closure for your own benefit …. Go for it. It may be quite cathartic.
Or write it all in a letter.

If you don’t want to speak to her take up your husband’s offer or just send a short notification in an email.

Its time to move on and begin to live your life for you and your family now; you’ve done your bit 💐

ThePure · 17/02/2024 09:30

Go old school. Post a notice of his death in the local paper in the area where he lived. Then they can all be informed and you don't have to speak to them.

FaiIureToLunch · 17/02/2024 09:30

Well you can text a landline, it comes through as an automated message. Do that.

I lost my mum and would not have had any bandwidth for this sort of arsehole I have to say. Just look after yourself and don’t waste energy on this nasty woman.

VWT5 · 17/02/2024 09:31

If you can’t write to pass on the news, kindly, I would let your DH make the call - he can make it brief if needed. He can have stock phrases if there is any ranting “that isn’t actually what happened / you must be aware that sadly there are always two sides in any situation”

Don’t put yourself through more than you have already been through. Don’t put yourself through more pain. Look after yourself.

I totally understand your position - in not wanting to open yourself up to more verbal abuse and emotional pain hearing unsolicited things that are false. You need to protect yourself.

Mindymomo · 17/02/2024 09:32

If you don’t want to speak to her, write her a letter. We had similar situation whereby FIL was seeing a lady after MIL died, seeing each other 2/3 times a week, for 3 years, but they fell out over a stupid row in supermarket car park and she stormed off. A few months later he became ill and was in hospital when she rang him on house landline and left a message saying she hoped he was well, we never met her. We asked him if he wanted her to know, he said no and we didn’t ring her to say he died, but I wished we hadn’t asked him so at least she would know. Also, if any of your DF so called friends say anything nasty, I wouldn’t have anything to do with them, you know the truth.

MrsJellybee · 17/02/2024 09:34

You owe this woman nothing. Don’t tell her.

WeAreWarriorsWeAreWarriors · 17/02/2024 09:36

You don't owe this woman anything. You have done right by your dad and now it's time to look after yourself. If you feel you must tell her, get your husband to tell her short, factual information. You speaking to her will serve no purpose at all.

Is she likely to be included in any will and therefore will find out from any executors or lawyers?

SoupDragon · 17/02/2024 09:38

Phone from an anonymous number, tell her that he died and then hang up immediately and block her number.

Or, I'm sure you can send a text to a land line - a computerised voice reads it out?

determinedtomakethiswork · 17/02/2024 09:40

I wouldn't tell her at all. It wouldn't occur to me to tell her. it sounds as though your dad didn't know the real woman at all.

I think if you do tell her she will follow the money and try to see if she was left anything. If she wasn't and you were, then she will try to get it off you. She sounds absolutely disgusting and I wouldn't have anything to do with her.

Poachedeggavocado · 17/02/2024 09:40

You've had a horrendous time. It's over now, you did all you could. Delete her number and move on with your life. Why go back for more punishment?