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Can’t bring myself to notify my dads friend of his death

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bahhamburgers · 17/02/2024 09:14

My dad died a few weeks ago. Particularly horrible death at the end of three long years with dementia, the last two in a care home. It’s just me, only family so I’ve had to fight every step of the way for him. I am exhausted from it. I sat next to him for his last three days/nights and was with him when he died.

My mum died when I was a young child and he met a woman when I was 14, she absolutely hated me and was just vile. They never lived together or married but were friends for 30 odd years. I left home at 16 and never had anything to do with her again really.

Two years ago when it was apparent that my dad, who was then 84 was getting ill (she is 20 years younger than him, for context, so not an elderly lady herself). I called her begged her for Help with him. There is no one else. No other family or friends. She refused. And she told me all sorts of horrible things, about how much he hated me, all the awful things he had said about me since I was young, how over the last few years he had been saying what an evil person I am. I ended up having to hang up. I’d already been though a year of hell begging HCP and social care for help, I couldn’t take being told how terrible I am on top of all that.

I was so upset, I hung up. She doesn’t have my contact details and my dad was too far gone to use his phone anymore and went into a care home the next week. we had tried him living with us, but my youngest child was a baby and it was too dangerous, we had a couple of close calls and I had to put my children’s safety first.

When he died, I had to call a couple of other friends that he’d left instructions to call. The same thing. They told me that he was always saying what a terrible person I am, how horrible I was to him, that I never bothered with him, how I never saw him (we saw him every week, I nursed him though cancer, he stayed with me during recovery from cancer ops, he told people I hadn’t bothered with him).

Why these people felt the need to tell me those things when I was calling them to tell them my father had died two days previously and I was crying, I’ll never know. It wasn’t true.

I don’t blame him though. From reading things he’d written over the last decade, I think the dementia had been present for a long time. He just hid it well. And I have learned no one would have cared anyway. I took him to his GP in desperation, he was sat there saying what a nice cruise ship it was and the GP kept insisting he was fine, just depressed. He ended up in hospital, hallucinating that aliens had taken the place over and social workers kept telling me he was fine and they had no concerns. So this was a long time coming. I think he was telling people I hated him so they would look after him on the days I couldn’t.

Anyway, I need to tell that woman. He would have wanted me to. He asked me to in a letter he wrote a few years ago.

I just can’t face the barrage of shit I know she will unleash. I don’t need to hear yet again how much my dad hated me. I’ve been though hell for him over the last few years. I’ve missed half my toddlers life dealing with everything (he was abused in one care home, I had to deal with it all, again, no one really cared).

Dh said he would do it. But part of me wants to scream how much I’ve been though. not just the last few years, but looking after him my whole bloody life.

Sorry this is so long.

If I was this awful person who hated him, believe me, I would have had a much easier life. I loved him so much.
I have to believe he was saying all that for attention (he’s been saying awful things about me since I was a teenager, according to all these dickheads who thought it was appropriate to tell me that), and it got worse when dementia started.

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bahhamburgers · 17/02/2024 09:41

Funeral already happened.

It was complicated as he didn’t have a pre paid for plan. I had power of attorney and he was paying his own care fees from the sale of his home, social care said I could get into trouble for pre paying before his death, so we paid for a direct cremation as I was worried he would outlive his money and I would have to pay back the funeral plan. So we had to go with the cheapest possible as I wanted his ashes returned to me.

So it was just ten minutes in the crematorium around a the coffin, only 5 people allowed anyway which was me, dh and the children. So no one else could have come anyway.

I don’t have any addresses. I never have to speak to his other friends again, there’s no reason to.

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Octavia64 · 17/02/2024 09:42

It is very hard to have to ring people and do this.

You do not need to do it quickly, just do it when you are ready.

As you've said there is no email or mobile number just a landline probably someone will have to call.

You can send texts to landlines but if the person is elderly they might find that tricky?

Could someone else call on your behalf?

LakeTiticaca · 17/02/2024 09:42

I wouldn't even bother to tell her, she sounds a nasty piece of work

Icequeen01 · 17/02/2024 09:43

Does she have contact with the other friends that you told? If she does chances are she already knows. I wouldn't tell her to be honest.

clpsmum · 17/02/2024 09:44

I wouldn't tell her until she contacts you to see how he is tbh

Ratfinkstinkypink · 17/02/2024 09:44

You owe her nothing, if she was in any way concerned about him she would have been in touch with the care home at the very least. It is now time to look after you, you deserve it.

reflecting2023 · 17/02/2024 09:45

Don't contact her I don't think it is your duty, and she reused you be involved , and the funeral has already happened which is when you normally contact people.

LoveAHamSandwhich · 17/02/2024 09:45

If you have to do this in order to get closure for yourself, then do it.

But I think you need to separate out your feelings about your father. It sounds as though counselling would help you.

A close relative of mine used to say awful things about me once his dementia started. No-one else had any reason not to believe him. You just have to deal with it.

You are riled up about the tough time you have had looking after your DF, as well as grieving, as well as your dislike of this woman. Try and unpack it a bit.

bahhamburgers · 17/02/2024 09:47

Icequeen01 · 17/02/2024 09:43

Does she have contact with the other friends that you told? If she does chances are she already knows. I wouldn't tell her to be honest.

No. She did with one. But they told me that she accused my dad of having an affair with her about a decade ago (the other friend was the same age as me, 45 years younger than my father, it wasn’t true!)

She said not heard from her since and said she blocked her anyway because she was crazy, said she’s moved house and area twice since then anyway.

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Anjea · 17/02/2024 09:48

Fuck her. Don't tell her.

I'm sorry for your loss, it sounds like it's been a horribly stressful few years for you Flowers

sanityisamyth · 17/02/2024 09:49

ThePure · 17/02/2024 09:30

Go old school. Post a notice of his death in the local paper in the area where he lived. Then they can all be informed and you don't have to speak to them.

Very good idea. You've done your bit. If she didn't read it, well ...

MolkosTeenageAngst · 17/02/2024 09:49

You dad doesn’t sound like a nice man and neither do his friends. You don’t owe any of them anything, the time now is to focus on you and try and grieve and make peace, if you can, with the ways you were let down my your father as a teen and beyond. If you can’t face telling this woman you don’t have to regardless of what your father would have wanted, obviously he wasn’t putting your interests at the forefront when he let this woman into your life and badmouthed you as a teen. Just because he’s deceased doesn’t mean his needs come before yours, in fact now is even more the time to put yourself first. Don’t worry about this woman and if you can look at getting some talking therapy to process all of this.

Testina · 17/02/2024 09:50

“My mum died when I was a young child and he met a woman when I was 14, she absolutely hated me and was just vile. They never lived together or married but were friends for 30 odd years. I left home at 16 and never had anything to do with her again really.”

Was he aware of this? I’m confused at what their relationship actually was. Were they just friends or in a relationship? Why did you leave home so young?

You owe her nothing, but it sounds like your actions now are because you think you owe him something, not her. It sounds to me like he failed you - if I’m right reading between the lines that he sat back and let his new girlfriend be vile and force you out of a home she didn’t live in. In which case… you don’t owe him anything either. It’s not that hard to find an address for her I’m sure - send a blunt card if you really must, or get your husband to send a voice-to-text to the landline. Or better still - just let it go, don’t bother.

user1471556818 · 17/02/2024 09:50

Retired senior nurse here .Dementia is a truly horrific disease it's the disease that has been speaking here .Not your dad .
Why people are sharing the awful things that this illness has said is beyond any compassionate person.It shows a complete lack of understanding. Anymore of this and I want you to stop them and say my dad had Dementia where were you during this awful time .
Don't engage in anything else, they are absolute idiots .
Let your husband deal with the woman .
Do what is required legally and funeral wise . Let your husband help .
Then grieve him and move on with your life .You know the truth don't carry any off this any further than you have already .
Hugs

NotARealWookiie · 17/02/2024 09:50

Text her the facts in order to respect his wishes.

”Dad died on this date. We held the funeral privately. I will now block your number as there’s no reason for further contact”.

The she’s done and dealt with.

im very sorry for your loss.

PossumintheHouse · 17/02/2024 09:51

Don’t tell her. She sounds like a colossal bitch and doesn’t deserve to know.

bahhamburgers · 17/02/2024 09:54

Ratfinkstinkypink · 17/02/2024 09:44

You owe her nothing, if she was in any way concerned about him she would have been in touch with the care home at the very least. It is now time to look after you, you deserve it.

She had no idea where he was to be fair. I didn’t even tell her what part of the county we are in.

She didn’t known where I live, my phone number, let alone anything about where he ended up. My dad was a loose cannon with his mobile, calling the police all the time to ask if the kettle was plugged in, stuff like that, so we had to take it off him just before he went into the home so she had no way of contacting him.

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LoveAHamSandwhich · 17/02/2024 09:55

What do you want to do for you, OP? What will make you feel best?

WhamBamThankU · 17/02/2024 09:56

Don't tell her. You owe the bitch nothing.

Lighteningstrikes · 17/02/2024 09:56

I’m sorry for your sad loss and also for what you are going through now 💐

Don’t you or your DH call or message the evil woman, you owe her absolutely nothing, and she would only use the opportunity to beat you more.

She won’t go to his funeral anyway, if she couldn’t be bothered to visit him when he was dying.

If he was looking down at you, he wouldn’t want you to go through even more hurt and sorrow.

You were an amazing daughter and there are lots of selfish offspring that wouldn’t do half the things you did for your DF.

Mischance · 17/02/2024 09:56

Your loved father has died - do what you think is best for you.

My late OH had a neurological progressive disease and in the last months thought I was trying to kill him - brain illnesses do strange things.

It is so bizarre that people are prepared to tell you these things when you are grieving.

If you do not want to contact him then don't. Your well-being is paramount here. Just leave it be.

ohididntrealise · 17/02/2024 09:57

Nah, I just wouldn't.

She doesn't deserve the courtesy.

Your dad asked you to but meh....I think you've done enough. Just look after yourself now.

bahhamburgers · 17/02/2024 09:58

user1471556818 · 17/02/2024 09:50

Retired senior nurse here .Dementia is a truly horrific disease it's the disease that has been speaking here .Not your dad .
Why people are sharing the awful things that this illness has said is beyond any compassionate person.It shows a complete lack of understanding. Anymore of this and I want you to stop them and say my dad had Dementia where were you during this awful time .
Don't engage in anything else, they are absolute idiots .
Let your husband deal with the woman .
Do what is required legally and funeral wise . Let your husband help .
Then grieve him and move on with your life .You know the truth don't carry any off this any further than you have already .
Hugs

To be fair on them, they didn’t know he had dementia.

I only managed to get him diagnosed 3 years ago when I moved him to me.

They were shocked when I told them he’d be suffering with dementia. I knew he was ill. no one would help. He would talk absolute nonsense to medical professionals, who would say he was totally fine.

So none of his friends thought anything was up. They just thought he was upset because I was “stealing” all his money. (Spoiler- I wasn’t).

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Daffodilsandtuplips · 17/02/2024 09:59

I wouldn’t bother. She ditched him when the going got tough and backheeled him onto you. Do you think she’d be bothered ? I don’t think she would care.
Put her out if your mind, she’s not worthy of your time. You owe her nothing.
Take care of yourself.

Leopardmatches · 17/02/2024 10:00

If I was your friend I’d tell her for you.