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Thread 37 Sunak : Rishi has a plan, right?

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DuncinToffee · 13/02/2024 12:14

Or back to square one?

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https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4991119-sunak-created-by-ai?page=40&reply=132989726

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Roussette · 19/02/2024 10:51

Last I heard there was a real problem finding an airline to do these flights. I bet they'd love to use an RAF plane,

It is understood that the back-up plan would be to either use an RAF Voyager jet or a civilian plane that has no livery but flown under contract by the MoD. It has also emerged that the Ministry of Defence airbase designated as the departure centre will now require up to £20 million for extra security fences to keep protesters out.

DuncinToffee · 19/02/2024 11:30

I see the government has come up with another new plan to ban mobile phones in school

Badenoch is going to tell the truth in Parliament today

And Ofcom have opened a due impartiality investigation into GB News.

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DuncinToffee · 19/02/2024 11:42

AdamRyan · 19/02/2024 10:05

Was it this thread where we were discussing the human tragedies likely to end up being linked to lack of funding in public services? I've got a horrible feeling this child death situation in Bristol is going to turn out to be another one. A&S police have referred themselves to the IPCC and the youngest victim was 7 months old :(

Discussions on this so often seem to get shut down or simply dismissed Sad

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IClaudine · 19/02/2024 12:05

Badenoch's behaviour on Twitter yesterday was appalling. So unprofessional.

DuncinToffee · 19/02/2024 12:26

Oh dear, looks like Badenoch got cold feet

Rather oddly, the statement will be made in the Commons by Post Office minister Kevin Hollinrake rather than Kemi Badenoch herself.

https://x.com/KevinASchofield/status/1759550193794490785?s=20

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IClaudine · 19/02/2024 12:55

No 10 very much fudging it all:

Yesterday Badenoch said that Staunton’s interview with the Sunday Times about the conversation they had when she sacked him recently was “full of lies”. Asked if No 10 agreed that Staunton was a liar, the spokesperson said:

"Obviously this referred to a conversation that she had with Henry Staunton, and you’ll have seen her words on this; she’s very clear that the interview that he gave was a misrepresentation of her conversation with him and the reasons for his dismissal.

And the government has being clear, and will refute the allegations [that it wanted to slow down compensation to victims]. The government has taken action to speed up the compensation to victims, and we’ve consistently encouraged postmasters to come forward with their claims. Any suggestions otherwise [are] not correct."

The spokesperson also refused to say whether No 10 has seen the record kept by officials of the call between Badenoch and Staunton, or whether those notes will be published.

The spokesperson said the letter sent to Staunton by the business department showed that the government did not want the Post Office to slow down the payment of compensation to post office operators. When it was put to him that the letter also showed Staunton was expected to control costs (see 9.21am), the spokesperson did not accept that this meant the government was not committed to paying compensation promptly.

Asked if he could categorically say that no one from government asked Staunton to stall compensation payments, the spokesperson said the government had sped up compensation to victims and any suggestions otherwise were not correct.

Notonthestairs · 19/02/2024 12:55

The school phone ban is just guidance for headteachers isn't it?
No statutory authority.

DuncinToffee · 19/02/2024 13:01

IClaudine · 19/02/2024 12:55

No 10 very much fudging it all:

Yesterday Badenoch said that Staunton’s interview with the Sunday Times about the conversation they had when she sacked him recently was “full of lies”. Asked if No 10 agreed that Staunton was a liar, the spokesperson said:

"Obviously this referred to a conversation that she had with Henry Staunton, and you’ll have seen her words on this; she’s very clear that the interview that he gave was a misrepresentation of her conversation with him and the reasons for his dismissal.

And the government has being clear, and will refute the allegations [that it wanted to slow down compensation to victims]. The government has taken action to speed up the compensation to victims, and we’ve consistently encouraged postmasters to come forward with their claims. Any suggestions otherwise [are] not correct."

The spokesperson also refused to say whether No 10 has seen the record kept by officials of the call between Badenoch and Staunton, or whether those notes will be published.

The spokesperson said the letter sent to Staunton by the business department showed that the government did not want the Post Office to slow down the payment of compensation to post office operators. When it was put to him that the letter also showed Staunton was expected to control costs (see 9.21am), the spokesperson did not accept that this meant the government was not committed to paying compensation promptly.

Asked if he could categorically say that no one from government asked Staunton to stall compensation payments, the spokesperson said the government had sped up compensation to victims and any suggestions otherwise were not correct.

It's this undated letter they are talking about I think.

Priority 1 is keeping cost down, settling the claims is 3rd.

edited to add link
https://x.com/biztradegovuk/status/1759302772787159292?s=20

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AdamRyan · 19/02/2024 13:01

DuncinToffee · 19/02/2024 12:26

Oh dear, looks like Badenoch got cold feet

Rather oddly, the statement will be made in the Commons by Post Office minister Kevin Hollinrake rather than Kemi Badenoch herself.

https://x.com/KevinASchofield/status/1759550193794490785?s=20

https://www.itv.com/news/2024-02-19/badenoch-under-pressure-to-back-up-claims-ex-post-office-boss-lied

Ridiculous. Again, I hope he sues her.

AdamRyan · 19/02/2024 13:05

DuncinToffee · 19/02/2024 13:01

It's this undated letter they are talking about I think.

Priority 1 is keeping cost down, settling the claims is 3rd.

edited to add link
https://x.com/biztradegovuk/status/1759302772787159292?s=20

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Keeping the costs down, including "effective management of legal costs to ensure medium term viability"

Sounds very congruent with what Staunton said to me

IClaudine · 19/02/2024 13:09

Also, that letter looks as though it was sent early on in his appointment (very suspect that it is not dated?). That is not proof that the conversation he said took place didn't take place after that letter was sent.

ETA: that letter sets out the strategic priorities for 2022/23. What were the strategic priorities for 2023/24? Have they changed from 2022/23?

Someone is lying and we all know who.

L1ttledrummergirl · 19/02/2024 13:54

Sunaks government showing its integrity and accountability again.

Flamme · 19/02/2024 14:36

Notonthestairs · 19/02/2024 12:55

The school phone ban is just guidance for headteachers isn't it?
No statutory authority.

Keegan's presented this as her responding to clamour from headteachers. Not sure that they are that bothered, to be honest, not least because if they want to ban phones they are free to do so - they've never had to wait for government guidance on it.

What they are clamouring for, of course, is money to stop their schools crumbling away, and to be able to deliver on things like obligations to pupils with SEND. She's strangely silent about how she's responding to that.

Flamme · 19/02/2024 14:40

Badenoch has also been foolish enough to go after national treasure Michael Sheen. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-13098349/KEMI-BADENOCH-Michael-Sheen-says-truth-pouring-millions-SAVE-steel-jobs-Britain.html

That can't end well for her.

IClaudine · 19/02/2024 15:43

Badenoch is going to make the statement after all. It will be at around 4:15.

AdamRyan · 19/02/2024 15:49

Do we think Kevin spat the dummy at being asked to be the bearer of Kemis explanation?

TokyoSushi · 19/02/2024 16:13

I wouldn't be surprised if there's an element of truth in the Badenoch story...

TokyoSushi · 19/02/2024 16:21

Kemi's on...

newnamethanks · 19/02/2024 16:26

Michael Sheen? Is she completely mad? Not only is he a National Treasure he is also an actual Angel. Silly woman. This bodes ill for her. I hope.

RafaistheKingofClay · 19/02/2024 16:37

TokyoSushi · 19/02/2024 16:13

I wouldn't be surprised if there's an element of truth in the Badenoch story...

The ST seem to be sticking by it despite what Badenoch says. Which would suggest they think they have enough proof to back it up.

TokyoSushi · 19/02/2024 16:38

Definitely has the vibe of a 'media reveal' coming down the line proving that she did say it, and then she'll have to resign, we'll see...

IClaudine · 19/02/2024 16:39

She's not backing down is she. I wonder too if the ST have a smoking gun. I hope so.

TokyoSushi · 19/02/2024 16:41

She's pretty categorically saying that it wasn't said, I'm sure the Sunday Times office is pretty wild now trying to find the evidence that it was, or maybe they already have it, or maybe she knows it can't be proven, or...

Notonthestairs · 19/02/2024 16:52

I doubt anything was committed to email or WhatsApp.

Staunton said he took contemporaneous notes of conversations.

I presume she'll reject those.

DuncinToffee · 19/02/2024 16:55

Away from the Badenoch squirrel

https://x.com/AdamBienkov/status/1759621461747040583?s=20

Rishi Sunak's Government has quietly closed the Ukraine Family Scheme from 3PM today. It means a big reduction in those Ukrainians eligible for refuge with family members in the UK. Grandchildren, siblings and other family members now excluded

Only partners and children now eligible under the separate Homes for Ukraine scheme

And Cleverley is celebrating that the UK now banned overseas care workers from bringing dependants

Angry
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