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Looks like the coward died in the Thames [edit by MNHQ]

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catagoryA · 09/02/2024 17:14

Police think Abdul Shokoor Ezedi "died in the Thames", having last been seen leaning over Chelsea bridge.

Couldn't face the disability and disfigurement that he had attempted to inflict on helpless girls, but rebounded onto himself , maybe.

Couldn't face justice - coward

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-68255937

Clapham attack latest: Police believe Abdul Shokoor Ezedi's body in the Thames - BBC News

It is likely Abdul Shokoor Ezedi died after going into the river at Chelsea Bridge, police say, but his remains are yet to be found.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-68255937

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Halfwaytheree · 10/02/2024 04:06

nothing is confirmed, only theorised in that article - I personally think that this type of man, who has come from a culture where acid attacks on women are more prevalent, would see suicide as dishonourable/shameful. More shameful than committing the acid attack to begin with.

I suppose none of us know the extent of his injuries. He seemed to be walking around okay at Tesco - didn’t seem delirious, faint, nor stumbling around as if he was blinded. He must have been in a lot of pain but that didn’t really come across in the CCTV footage released. It’s interesting that he went from that “Powering through” state to suicide in a few hours.

I’m more convinced that he may have succumbed to his injuries and died, but outright suicide by jumping in the Thames seems much too convenient of a conclusion to this.

ImCamembertTheBigCheese · 10/02/2024 04:26

trollopolis · 09/02/2024 21:18

OK, so do you mean that the person they tracked on CCTV wasn't him?

Or that their scrutiny of CCTV on the exit routes from the bridge was lacking?

Wow, calm down. Are you one of the officers involved. You're taking my comment rather personally.

Halfwaytheree · 10/02/2024 04:35

APickUpFullOfPinkCarnations · 10/02/2024 00:35

He had planned to escape in his car, which he crashed, and in his haste to leave left his phone in there, so no means of contacting anyone. I don't think he planned to stay in London or he would have gone straight to where he was supposed to stay instead of randomly taking tubes and walking all over the place. And anyway, the police have his phone now and if he had been messaging anyone asking them for somewhere to stay they would know it by now. He would be in a lot of pain from a serious injury that needed immediate medical attention. His big plan went wrong. No sign of him leaving the bridge. No use of his bank card since. I think he knew he was out of options and jumped.

this makes sense actually- I didn’t realise he had no means of contacting anyone. That alone nils chances of his friends/family hiding him. It’s overwhelmingly unlikely that strangers/drivers in London would have picked him up on the bridge and hidden him. Taken him to hospital perhaps, but going to ground with him? No

I think it’s likely he jumped in the Thames in sheer desperation because of the agony

this also rings true. He went to Tesco and purchased water, presumably to flush his injuries. But that small bottle wouldn’t have done much for him! I can imagine him seeing a body of water, whilst his burn injury gets more and more intense, and just thinking that will be sufficient to splash on his skin to wash away the acid and stop the damage. He just might not have anticipated being flushed away or intentionally killing himself, more so a survival instinct that led to his death

Halfwaytheree · 10/02/2024 04:57

I know this is not the priority, but I wish we knew what his thought process was, seems we’ll never get the answer!

can you imagine being in that situation?? 1.Attempting to kill people including kids is one absolutely unfathomable aspect, but then being publicly caught which prevented their deaths - he must have felt angry/annoyed/panicked?
2.Then inflicting the same fatal injuries on yourself accidentally, not being able to access medical help as you’ll get arrested,
3.in an unfamiliar area, going to Tesco and trying to not arouse suspicion, no way to contact anyone/no transport,
4.injuries getting worse and worse to the point you’re likely blind, if not dying.

I just wonder how you even process that karmic turn of events! Did he feel regret, guilt, sadness, anger at himself? Is he void of all emotion? I mean, at some point in that mess you’d surely stop caring about self preservation?

therealcookiemonster · 10/02/2024 05:36

catagoryA · 09/02/2024 17:19

I don't think you actually can search the Thames

are divers not an option?

Gruhgahkle · 10/02/2024 05:43

LilBus · 09/02/2024 17:47

I think he’s still alive, can’t believe anyone believes this without a body!

London is very well covered by CCTV. Even if he'd been picked up by a vehicle that would have been spotted.

Think about how much rain we've had, the Thames is much longer and wider than people think and it will be higher from the rain.

Cvoight · 10/02/2024 05:55

The Met is an awful institution. Historically corrupt, sexist, discriminatory, racist. I could go on.

But the idea that they’ve just declared Abdul Ezedi dead as a convenient out to avoid spending more time and money on the case is just bonkers.

There have been many, many times when the Met has failed victims of domestic attack. Sadly, there will be many more. But this isn’t one of these times. There is huge public interest in this story and immense political pressure. Everyone working on this case will be gutted that suicide/falling into the river is the most likely outcome: they would have loved to have found him and brought him to justice.

I wonder if they regret not releasing his photo earlier?

Westfacing · 10/02/2024 06:12

They have footage of him on the south side of the bridge, also going in/out of Battersea Park, and on the bridge peering over the railings, but none of him leaving the bridge. Presumably it's all from the traffic and bus cameras. The north side of the bridge is a big busy junction by day and must have cameras that cover it all.

I'm inclined to believe he jumped - I live in the area and really hope he did and that his body be found. His poor victims would have a better life knowing that he's dead.

40weeksmummy · 10/02/2024 06:29

I don't understand why everyone thinks he should be dead anyway because of his face injuries. He might had someone to look after his wounds, antibiotics, etc. We have homeless lady in our area, she basically lies down on dirty pathway with bleeding toes since 2018 and she is still alive.

10ThousandSpoons · 10/02/2024 06:31

DeeCeeCherry · 09/02/2024 22:15

I do wonder, if CCTV caught him pacing up and down on the bridge - why wasnt he seen jumping into the Thames? I mean theres no logical reason CCTV would be suddenly switched off at that point is there? There are so many cameras in the area and 2 on that bridge (or maybe 3, I cant quite remember) yet his jump was missed by all of them? I don't believe he jumped. The police would've been better off saying nothing for now.

I read he was seen leaning over the railings

CormorantStrikesBack · 10/02/2024 06:33

therealcookiemonster · 10/02/2024 05:36

are divers not an option?

Thames is today isn’t it? So could a body go all the way out to sea? Not sure about the Thames barrier situation. But even if not all the way to sea a body could still be moved so far downstream. Look at how long it took to find the body of Nicola Bulley in a much smaller river.

Halfwaytheree · 10/02/2024 06:37

40weeksmummy · 10/02/2024 06:29

I don't understand why everyone thinks he should be dead anyway because of his face injuries. He might had someone to look after his wounds, antibiotics, etc. We have homeless lady in our area, she basically lies down on dirty pathway with bleeding toes since 2018 and she is still alive.

I doubt an acid attack is comparable to your example. Just a quick google search provided the below. Essentially his injury can rapidly deteriorate (reports stating his could become fatal) whilst he never had proper early stage treatment to mitigate the damage:

Chemical burns on your skin can be mild or severe depending on how much the acid is diluted and how long the acid is in contact with your skin.
Like with other types of burns, chemical burns can be categorized based on how deeply they penetrate your skin. 1st degree - 4th degree.

Acid causes the skin tissue to melt, often exposing the bones below the flesh, sometimes even dissolving the bone. In some cases when acid has come into contact with the eyes, they have been known to discolour and even burst. After an acid attack, the skin is at an extremely high risk for infection.

The acid can rapidly eat away skin, the layer of fat beneath the skin, and in some cases even the underlying bone. Eyelids and lips may be completely destroyed and the nose and ears severely damaged.

SurreyMumOfOne · 10/02/2024 06:53

The police wouldn't say this without good reason. They won't have just given up. It's understandably taken time to review CCTV footage and piece together his movements so either:

  • the CCTV trail has gone cold and they really do believe it. It's plausible given visibility if injuries etc,
  • or they're saying it so he and his protectors think it's safe to lower their guard

I used to row in Putney at the same time as when the rowing coach Michael Hill sadly lost his life falling into the river from a coaching boat. Despite it being known where he entered the water, and immediate searches, his body was not recovered. It surfaced many (six?) weeks later, very close to where it had entered the water, despite the tidal nature of the river. In this case he was wearing significant layers of thick clothing which would have weighed him down, so it could be very different, but I'm saying this to share that it is possible for bodies not to be found despite searches, and take some time to surface.

SherylCrow · 10/02/2024 07:15

I hope he's dead, rather than being found and wrangling about what to do with him for months z/yea. Dead is a good outcome. There are many more criminals who would be far more convenient dead, Vennables and Thompson to name a couple.

MySugarBabyLove · 10/02/2024 07:24

you can die from hyperthermia in four minutes if you fall into a river. The police warn people against swimming in the Thames even in the summer.
It’s possible that he could have passed out due to his injuries and simply fallen in, and he wouldn’t stand a chance.
Nicola Bulley drowned simply because she fell into a much smaller river, and her body wasn’t found for weeks despite the use of divers. And although the case was entirely different the mn sleuths took it on themselves to proclaim with absolute certainty that if she’d fallen in the river she would have been found, so she must either have been taken or disappeared to start a new life.
Usually it’s the most obvious answer.

Lovingthegrungerevival · 10/02/2024 07:49

you can die from hyperthermia in four minutes if you fall into a river

Highly unlikely. One can, however, die from hypothermia in the way described.

HistoryBufff3 · 10/02/2024 07:50

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ruffler45 · 10/02/2024 07:51

Would imagine there are a lot of underworld "struck off" doctors who would give assistance for a price so would not assume he is dead yet.

HistoryBufff3 · 10/02/2024 07:59

Grandmasswag · 09/02/2024 21:42

They can’t find anyone. The home office, the police. We don’t have a bloody clue who’s here. The party so tough on border control and immigration. Look up the figures for deportation under the last government and compare.

Indeed.

I personally know of one illegal immigrant (albanian) who was living undetected in the UK for 7 years before being arrested for running a cannabis farm. He went to prison, served about 15 months and then was let out and allowed to continue living here. All he had to do was claim persecution in his homeland. Ridiculous.

Lourdes12 · 10/02/2024 08:09

He’ll be dead from his injuries anyway

BroughttoyoubyBerocca · 10/02/2024 08:12

he knows people smugglers to get into UK, maybe he went on a lorry or boot of a car?

EasternStandard · 10/02/2024 08:15

BroughttoyoubyBerocca · 10/02/2024 08:12

he knows people smugglers to get into UK, maybe he went on a lorry or boot of a car?

No idea if he’s dead or not but I think the amount of networks set up to aid people who get in are underestimated

trollopolis · 10/02/2024 08:22

ImCamembertTheBigCheese · 10/02/2024 04:26

Wow, calm down. Are you one of the officers involved. You're taking my comment rather personally.

I wasn't het up -I was curious. I wanted to know what you meant, hence questions on a couple of points as I'm wondering how this ruse would work. Also if it was worked in some other way, then how - and of course why.

(though of course am now wondering why you chose to invent something about me rather than respond to (or ignore) the post)

Icequeen01 · 10/02/2024 08:24

BoobyDazzler · 09/02/2024 21:45

I wondered if the police were trying to give the impression that they think he’s dead to try and get him to break cover.

Yes I agree. I think that's a real possibility.

Yousay55 · 10/02/2024 08:25

Taking your own life doesn’t mean you’re a coward. Really quite damaging to suicidal people and families of people who have died by suicide to keep that old fashioned slant going.
Obviously what this man did was beyond awful and he should be bought to justice if he’s not dead.

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