Essex dog attack: Man arrested after woman dies in Jaywick

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Not much to say really.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-68197109

@LadyWiddiothethird I'm going to disagree. We both grew up in rubbish areas and chose breeds people dislike. ( I do not own xl bullies). That's where the similarities end.
My dogs have not been responsible for a death, casualty or being out of control. So im not seeing how I'm the same as this man? I do not have that on my conscience. I have a breed you do not like. That's completely fine. But it's wrong to judge us all the same. Yes you may see more of these dogs in those types of areas. That's where I think the law should be enforced and people should be licensed, tested, educated on what breed they are buying. Not just xl bullies but any breed that they move onto next. Because they will find another breed to cause chaos with again.

I hope he and his canine cargo will be met at the border by armed police.

I cannot imagine what happened to this poor woman but to me, this proves that current new legislation and laws won’t work. I have no doubt there are some owners and some dogs that are being handled properly and brought up by owners complying with the law but let’s face it, we know the type of owner involved her. Basically one that won’t have registered the dogs and has not control over them. It’s people that are the issue.

Is this a socialist battle cry?

It was lovely in the 80’s and there are still some nice areas of Clacton although much is now very run down as are most UK seaside towns. I’ve lived near by all my life, used to work in clacton in the 90’s and I take my mum to a day centre there every week.
Jaywick on the other hand!!
DH’s work colleague used to rent a house on the estate, the tenants would literally trash the home, one even set fire to it. The place is pretty lawless, it is not somewhere you’d want to visit and if you did you certainly would not wish to return.
Sadly, I am not surprised to hear today’s sad news.

Jaywick is all private housing. Even the roads are privately owned (and unmaintained). Google picture of it, it’s like nothing you have ever imagined existing in the U.K. It’s like something out of a zombie apocalypse movie.

We've got loads of tough issues popping up in our country right now – failing NHS, gangs, culture clashes, rape centres underfunded, low birth rate that could lead to more economic issues, more poverty, and more crime.. It's no wonder authoritarian governments can seize power when things get so chaotic and messed up. Hopefully it doesn't go there!

The lady was visiting her grandson. The article also said she lost a daughter - I really hope that wasn’t the child’s mother. Horrific enough for any grandson to witness his grandmother being attacked, but one that had lost his mother already would add another layer of tragedy to an awful situation.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-68197109

This.

Scotland as per usual under the SNP wanted to do something different and dragged their heels over legislation. It wasn't until after Christmas with a ban looming in England, and numpties shoving XL bullies in their transit vans to ship to similar numpties in Scotland that they finally realised they'd have to do something.

But there is no legislation in place yet. Would be perfectly legal for me to walk down Buchanan St in Glasgow tomorrow with a pack of 6 XL bullies, off the lead, unmuzzled, unneutered, unchipped, unregistered. It's going to take a while for the law to be passed here so in the meantime it's fair game for the English scumbags who don't want to comply with the laws around registration to "re-home" their animals on the hard of thinking up here.

This. Its innocent dogs and innocent people who will pay. In my dog owning lifetime, it has been dobes, rottis, and gsds to name but a few. My own breed was weis. I am a bit old and achey to have dogs now, but when we got our first one early 80's, it looked for a while as though they were going to be the next misused breed but happily it didn't happen.

I have lived here for the last 20 years and although it looks run down and the council don't give two shits about it, it really isn't that bad, I'd walk round here at night. Both myself and my husband work and own our own property. People look out for each other. Please don't believe all the rubbish that they have shown on the TV programmes. The dog attacks can and have happened elsewhere in the country, it can't just be said its because of what the area looks like.

Google picture of it, it’s like nothing you have ever imagined existing in the U.K. It’s like something out of a zombie apocalypse movie.

I've just walked around it, courtesy of Google streetview.

Jeez Louise.

Yes that's right. A lot of chalets and tiny bungalows went up after the war too. And some people moved to places like Jaywick after losing their homes in the early 90s or the 08 Recession.

I wouldn't mind betting Mr I'll Do As I Please watches conspiracy videos and thinks licences and registration is all a globalist plot . That's assuming he thinks at all.

There is something wrong with people who are attracted to these monsters. They aren't pets. They need to be eradicated, full stop. We don't let people keep full-grown lions and tigers just because they like them; this is no different.

The "deed not breed" brigade are making fools of themselves. Everyone with half a brain can see that these overbred, fucked up creatures are about intimidation and violence ffs. If you own one you've got something fundamentally the matter with you.

Also agree with the pp who said that ALL dog ownership should involve a licence which you have to actively qualify for. There are too many dogs, too much shit everywhere and too much nuisance behaviour, it's reached the point where something needs to be done.

@pasteloblong

German Shepherds are very smart, loyal dogs used for police work such as tracking and drug detection as well as protection.

They are nothing like these deranged xl bullies who seem to be inbred, genetically unhinged, and violent - aren't most in the U.K. descended from one dog called Killer Kimbo.

Restrictions start here on 23rd February when they all need to be muzzled, on a lead in public and they can’t be sold. They need to have an exemption by 31st July.

Also agree with the pp who said that ALL dog ownership should involve a licence which you have to actively qualify for. There are too many dogs, too much shit everywhere and too much nuisance behaviour, it's reached the point where something needs to be done
@sprigatito
I agree with this but I feel dog ownership has come to be seen as an automatic right, rather than something you have to apply for & qualify for. Can that be turned around?
Furthermore anything which acts as a barrier to dog ownership will be seen as a threat by a businesses who make a profit from it, those that have the power to do so will lobby hard against it. Our govt doesnt work for the interests of normal people, it works for big business.

So another three weeks for them to be sent up here then. What a mess.

I bet your new neighbours in the nice part of town love having you (and the dogs large enough to hold your interest) around.

True but the new legislation will mean that the pups will have to be PTS rather than being rehomed. It will take time but there will be less and less XL bullies around year on year.

Do you think those dogs were just sitting nicely waiting when the police got inside? They likely turned on the officers too so were shot. Or the poor victim was still showing some signs of life at that point so they had to be shot to try to get past them to reach her to attempt to help her.

I really feel for officers who have to run into these attacks, knowing they are likely to be facing a horrific scene and being in danger themselves. I can imagine the images of what those dogs do to a human body would never leave you.

At least the child will no longer have to live with this man as hopefully SS will now get involved.

I've been in those houses and they're absolutely tiny - more like holiday chalets than anything else. (My best friend actually lived on that street until a few years ago)

To have eight dogs inside is utterly disgusting and irresponsible.

The poor woman 🙁