Essex dog attack: Man arrested after woman dies in Jaywick

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Not much to say really.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-68197109

"My view is that the dog licence fee should be set at a level where it funds all enforcement activities including dog wardens to take away and PTS any non-compliant dogs, any dogs off lead in a public place that isn't a designated and fenced in dog walked field, confiscate dogs from non-compliant premises with illegal breeding/ insufficient fencing to ensure dogs cannot escape from private property, do spot checks to check dogs seen in public are chipped and from a licenced breeded, etc.,"

If only. I'd certainly vote for that.

Our local park is completely unusable due to off lead bully breeds, akitas, cane corsos, etc.

Start seizing them and putting them down and i think you'd soon start seeing more responsible owners.

Real animal lover right there

@WhatsTheUseOfWorrying except breeding goldfish & guinea pigs aren't out of control in the same way that breeding dogs are. Your argument falls down because you are suggesting that dogs are an inconvenience yet comparing them to goldfish who obviously aren't

We had a German Shepherd for 17 years. It was my job to feed and play with and walk her until I left for uni. I did that every day after school and on weekends.
One day when the dog was about 5, I was walking her and ran into some friends - friends I had known my entire life.
While we were laughing and talking, my one friend said something silly and I laughed and tapped his arm.
The next thing I knew I was pulling my dog off him - she had launched at him and grabbed a big mouthful of shirt.
My dog had never done anything like that before and never did anything like that after.
Fast forward 25 or so years and my mum sent me a newspaper article about how my childhood friend had beaten his wife to death.
Did my dog sense something I obviously did not? Maybe she did.
I don’t live in the U.K. but I hope you wouldn’t consider my dog a “monster” simply for being of a breed you don’t approve of.

@DreamTheMoors 'my post was about XL bullies. Although I do think German Shepherds, while beautiful and intelligent, are an insane choice for a domestic pet. They are working dogs.

I’m pretty sure your dog wasn’t able to time travel. Dog owners are absolutely insane.

I think you mean “real sensible person who has a proper perspective, right there”.

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Yup. Batshit.

We’re farmers.
My dad took her to “work” every single day for 17 years.

It’s the criticism of something you know little or nothing about that makes me sad.

And yet this German Shepherd was completely comfortable in the company of pure evil.

The way that dog owners attempt to victim blame bite victims as being secretly evil is absolutely disgusting.

"I hope you wouldn’t consider my dog a “monster” simply for being of a breed you don’t approve of."

Your dog attacked a child in a completely unprovoked attack. It should have been immediately euthanised.

Instead you attempt to blame the victim and praise the dog as being some kind of 'psychic' capable of seeing into people's souls.

Modern dog culture is completely toxic.

There are different lines of GSD, just as there are of Labradors and many other breeds.

One reason that there are a lot of issues around dog ownership at the moment is that many people go to buy a pet and end up with, for example, a working-line cocker spaniel that they have no idea how to train or fulfil. The dog ends up an out of control resource-guarding mess.

If we do bring in licensing, there needs to be a short course for people BEFORE they get a dog where the importance of genetics is stressed and explained.

I remember dog licensing from when I was a teenager. It cost about 40p I think, you bought it from the Post Office. I'm guessing the people who are suggesting licenses as a way to improve the current situation are thinking of something vastly more expensive, maybe with some sort of qualifying requirement.
I can't see how simply buying a bit of paper will make a difference, unless the cost is so high that licensing would pay for lots of dog wardens with the power to police much more stringent rules about muzzles/off lead areas/fouling etc.

Along with how to choose a responsible breeder who does all the health checks for the type of dog you want. So many badly bred dogs who have lots of physical or mental health problems that could be easily avoided by only buying responsibly bred puppies from health tested parents.

@Messyhair321 you are incorrect.

Certain varieties or breeds of pretty much all domestic or exotic species are in an overbreeding crisis, with species specific rescues overflowing with unwanted animals & the traits that have been bred for causing significant welfare concerns.

In cats it's breeds like sphynx, persians, folds & the various dwarfs.
In rabbits it's lops, lionlops, lionheads & dwarfs.
In guinea pigs it's skinny pigs.
In herps it's rare morphs, some of which cause neuroligcal issues.
In fish it's fancy goldfish, in particular celestial & bubble eye goldfish.
In birds it's various colour & feather mutations, particularly prominent in the world of fancy pigeons, with fanciers breeding for neurological issues in certain breeds.
In 'pet' livestock it's 'micro pigs'.
In equines it's halter bred horses- basically horses bred purely for showing & are physiologically unfit to be ridden or worked.
And of course the many, many issues with breeding dogs with extreme features.

No - but they are often bliddy good judges of character - and GSDs are superb guarding dogs.

Unless it's literally Hitler and then they're best buds.

What a load of shite dog fanatics talk.

They certainly do. That was a very odd post.

Not an attack on a person, but 45 sheep and lambs on a farm in Devon killed, or had to be put down, due to a suspected attack by a dog or dogs. Suspected in that no-one witnessed it, but dog footprints were found at the scene. Some people might find the BBC report distressing.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-68235429

And the dog or dogs are likely to have blood on them. You'd think the owner would notice.

I hope that DNA has been taken, because having done it once, the dog is likely to want to do it again.

And the dog or dogs are likely to have blood on them. You'd think the owner would notice.

The owner must know if his/her dogs have got out during the night, surely.

The local community/local vets probably have a pretty good idea which dogs are likely to have done this.

No doubt the dog(s) sensed that the sheep were all wrong ‘uns and attacked them knowing the bad things they were capable of. 🙄

The logic of some dog owners is crazy. If dogs bite at random then chances are they’ll bite someone who’s not a good person. How can you say dogs are a good judge of character when there are stories of innocent children being maimed and killed?

The sheep and lambs were probably going to kill some one in 30 years so it’s ok, great judges of character these dogs.

Only surviving sheep may have been an evil nazi as it seems that’s where dogs draw the line

I don't think that anyone is arguing that the sheep attack wasn't the dogs fault. They were probably let out by idiots who think that this sort of thing is funny.