Acid attack in Clapham

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Has anyone else seen this horrible news story? Apparently 9 people have been injured, looks like the original targets were a woman and two children.

What is WRONG with people?!

herewegoroundthebastardbush I am not helping at the expense of my own daughters. My own means my family and citizens who just want to live in a safe community. How much more is going to take for you I do not know but do not expect other people to tolerate this nonsense.

@IClaudine

You are being very obtuse. ‘Our own’ simply means the people of Britain. One should care for them first, if indeed one is British. Since it could personally affect you or someone you love.

I agree we should care for and protect all the people of Britain, regardless of whether they were born here or not. I was just curious to know if that is what @Bululu meant by "our own". I am glad to see that she does mean that.

Yes and that he might get away with such a horrific crime

I think they will find him.🤞 The police will be throwing everything they have at this.

He fled the scene presumably without the substance he threw. He won't be able to get more, so I don't think he will attack again.

What makes you so sure ??

Whether you accept it or not it's there to stay, and making women and girls, and men btw, in the UK unsafe is not going to make things better in Afghanistan.

Nothing will. Remember the pictures for Afghanistan in the Seventies? The women there were free, the women in Iran were free, it's all gone now and people like this horrible man are the sad reality.

Only the Afghan people, men and women, can change that. You can't. We can't.

On The Labour MP talking this down this seems to be the case often. Certain elements are upweighted to keep people calmer

I’d say it’s because we’re powerless to actually change much given international law and if criminals choose to pay to get here there’s little that can be done

Sure of which?

If he still had the substance on him he has had opportunities to use it and hasn't.

If he hasn't got it, he can hardly go into a shop and buy whatever it is (or buy whatever ingredients used to make the substance).

Obviously no one can say 100% that he won't do it again but it seems really unlikely and I don't think people should be scaring each other about the possibility of him reappearing and randomly chucking the substance around in public.

The people who should be scared are the police when they find him. But I would imagine they will have protective gear etc.

I really thought they'd have got him by now. Is injury is going to be very hard to hide.

He could be anywhere.

I don't think every single police officer has protective gear.

I think someone must be hiding/protecting him, because if he was out there on his own he'd have been found by now. That injury is so identifying and obvious.

Yep it’s not like the army is known as a bastion of enlightenment and feminism is it? Lots of female recruits complain of sexual abuse and assault from their colleagues. Let’s not send known rapists there too.

I don't think it is obvious to some how the asylum system works, and that it's down to whether you have good reasons too fear persecution if you remained, and nothing to do with desirability of the person.

And I agree, crime is not limited to new arrivals in the country. And we should look much more critically at crime levels in this country - always look at how far back the comparisons stretch, and why a particular starting point is chosen. The enormous increase in crime in the latter part of the 20th century is airbrushed out, simply by starting after that is well underway.

Good choice of words, but I don't think they're allowed to do that!

The update I read this morning has some family members saying they'd turn him in if he came anywhere near them. So his options might be few - but he needs food/drink and somewhere to hide

Anyone know how long, assuming the injury is chemical burn, how long it would take for scabs to drop off? Without that injury, he'd be much harder to spot

True, but if they eventually get intelligence on where he is, they will go prepared, one would hope.

I agree with pp that someone must be hiding him, but surely that wound is going to need treatment?

I agree. I can’t believe he travelled by Tube with this obvious injury, what looks like damage to his clothes too, and no one called the police.

And the alkali he used is very easy to buy. I have a container of it, enough to make several litres, in my bathroom cupboard I use it for soapmaking.
I think drain cleaner is similarly alkali.

@SquirmOfEels God, I did choose an unfortunate word. Sorry.

Then campaign for things to change in Afghanistan but don't approve of them coming here illegally, being allowed to stay when they should be deported and committing criminal offences.

Will be now be deported once caught ???

It doesn’t look like his injury will simply heal on its own. He looks like he needs surgery & it’ll soon get infected. It also depends if that’s an eye injury too, it looks like it’s caught his eye. It won’t go away on its own he definitely needs treatment

Doubt it
a) he has asylum status here - so whatever he did, the tribunal was satisfied that he could not return safely
b) that hasn't changed, and indeed may have become exacerbated by notoriety
c) once asylum is granted, the person becomes our responsibility (unless they choose to relocate or the country of origin becomes safe for return).

This isn't managed migration (where it is pretty routine to deport foreign or dual nationals to their other country).

PS: just had a SKY pop up saying that the woman who was attacked was "in a relationship" with the wanted man (according to one of his relatives)

@SquirmOfEels if he get a sentence of over 12 months, which no doubt he will, he can be deported.

Idk re deportation but I don’t want a system with no checks and leaves us more open to violent attacks like this only to get rid of them later, if we can

And then all the resources and costs of dealing with it

Plus the horrifying harm to victims

a) he has asylum status here - so whatever he did, the tribunal was satisfied that he could not return safely

He failed twice and then became a ‘Christian’ but if they looked into it they could probably find he faked it

b) that hasn't changed, and indeed may have become exacerbated by notoriety

And why should anyone care?