Acid attack in Clapham

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Has anyone else seen this horrible news story? Apparently 9 people have been injured, looks like the original targets were a woman and two children.

What is WRONG with people?!

If men want to rape in a war or without they will, it’s shown again and again they will in a war or hell not in a war giving abusive men the title of being in the army helps nobody especially not women.

The army needs the best not the miscreants.

I said nothing of the sort.

You're making things up now.

The last thing I think any of us need or want are men like this man being trained to kill and given a weapon.

A person who failed twice before finally getting accepted will certainly of met and likely become friends with those living here while not official existing here at all

Yes that sounds realistic, and as you said later, they can hardly jail anyone who may be sheltering him if they're not even aware of either their existence or whereabouts

Very obviously better systems are need, the problem being that no matter what's suggested there'll be a horde howling about unfairness - like those who stopped even a convicted rapist from being deported

Do you really think the army would good place to send violent, sex offending misogynists? Train them in how to kill and give them weapons? And that would teach them...to respect women? Fucking hell.

Yes fair do's.

I was being quite flippant.

Just very angry that men who commit a sexual offence are treated like they stole some sweets. There has to be harsher sentences for the very first sexual crime a person commits - no matter how minor they 'appear' to be, because it's a clear indicator that the person will go on to do worse, much worse.

No, I was being flippant, see above.

However, the current system is just a slap on the wrist and send them back out into the public domain, endangering women and children.

This man was turned down twice for asylum after illegally entering the country.
He committed a sex offence, conned a Vicar that he'd converted and then conned a Judge into granting asylum.
He should never have been allowed to stay.
Of course his status is important.
A woman, two children and a variety of others have been injured because he gamed the asylum system and was allowed to do so.

Do you think if he'd been returned to his home country he would magically have turned into a lovely person who didn't attack women and children? It would have happened, or something much like it, because he's a hideous violent misogynist, not because he's an Afghan refugee. It just would have happened somewhere else, to a different woman and child.

As the English patient said, "thousands of people did die; just different people". Would it really have been better if he'd thrown acid in the face of a woman and battered a little child in Kabul than in Clapham?

The UK has a duty towards its own people. What happens to him in Afghanistan is not the UK’s business

Has he really still not been found!???

The first sex offence someone is caught and prosecuted for is very unlikely to be the first sex offence he has actually ever committed. It needs to be taken more seriously because there’s probably years of unprosecuted crimes behind him already.

@herewegoroundthebastardbush I am sure pretty sure you are aware that men from those cultures mistreat women. Can women even get an education? We should not allowed the same violence and abuse against women to continue here. Protect our own. What they do in those countries is for them to sort out.

Mistreatment of girls /women won't be sorted out in countries like Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan with the Taliban in power is akin to turning the clock back hundreds of years. The persecution of girls /women anywhere in the world needs to end.

Yes, it must end but if we are supposed to be a safe country we need to ensure we remain a safe country. I choose to live and pay taxes here to keep it that way. As far as I know we are not under the Taliban.

Britain ceased to be a safe country years ago. I know full well we are not under Taliban rule that was a rather silly sarcastic add on.

That meant we must live like the civilised country we are. Not like we were living under the Taliban.

So the powerless, uneducated wen who are mistreated are meant to "sort it out for themselves"?

Afaic, the women and specifically the mothers of Afghanistan are "my own" far more than the average british bloke. I don't accept their mistreatment just because they were born on a different land mass than me.

So let’s choose better. Get to the point where we vet and allow women to arrive. We did it with the Ukraine scheme

Deter everyone then choose

Horrendous isn’t it. I don’t want him to remain out there

I’m worried that despite what the labour MP for Clapham said, that he’ll target again. But also some sickos, seeing his crime, think in some twisted way it’s ok to commit this crime.

Who do you define as "our own"?

Who do you define as "our own"?

He fled the scene presumably without the substance he threw. He won't be able to get more, so I don't think he will attack again.

Given there is a manhunt for him it is doubtful than anyone will be spurred on to copy him. Hopefully. But there will always be men who commit this disgusting crime, sadly.

Afaic, the women and specifically the mothers of Afghanistan are "my own" far more than the average british bloke. I don't accept their mistreatment just because they were born on a different land mass than me

This is absolutely ridiculous thinking. You can do nothing to help Afghanistani women (and indeed your country has done them more harm than help).

It’s awful but that’s reality. You can do far more to change the ‘average British bloke’ given they are your fathers, brothers, coworkers, friends, neighbours. This is where you can have the greatest influence and there is A LOT of work to be done in this sense.