Sick to death of dogs

[SwordToFlamethrower]

Went to the beach today with dh and dd1.

Got jumped on by a dog off its lead. Owner said "oh. Sorry"

Two dogs ran up to us and started growling and snapping at me and dd who was playing on the sand.

Another dog ran up to us, had no idea what it's intentions were!

All off lead, all owners using their baby voices "don't do that Fido darling!"

Dog shit bags everywhere despite their being loads of bins and even free dog bags!

Absolutely so fed up of entitled dog owners and their nasty little dogs.

Why should children's rights trump anyone else's?

I love that all dog owners are narcissists now - for actual fuck's sake. If ever there was over-use of a word...

Why shouldn't children have the right to be safe from being mauled or killed? Why should a dog owner's rights trump the safety and the life of a child?

If I didn't think some dog owners are self-absorbed narcissists before, this thread has proved it now. Well and truly beyond doubt! It's like they can't help themselves but prove our point!

It's the owners. Not the dogs fault.

Don't you have work to do as you replied back very quickly...

In the defence of those who dislike dogs, all they’re asking is to be left alone 🤣

Dog owners think this is unreasonable 🤯

By that logic, teenagers should be allowed to carry knives because it’s not the knive’s fault every time there’s another fatality.

I know it's the dog owners fault. I said that if you had bothered to read my post. Why should a dog owner's rights .

Why does it bother you that I replied quickly? This is an international forum, some are working at home or are up late at night. Is that really all you have? It's rather pitiful. And further points to the hostility and nastiness of dog owners.

Because there are now so many dog owners there is an increase in the number of bad owners; just as with the increase in bad cyclists.

Morning walks along the Thames Path or in he park can be like an assault course at times - honestly you need eyes in the back of your head! Where space is a bit restricted many cyclists have no compunction in whizzing past so close they almost touch you - doesn't enter their head to slow down a bit. And some dog owners have the extending lead and then let the dog sniff around at length so you have to negotiate and walk around them. Then there are the dog-walkers with half a dozen dogs of varying sizes and behaviour, some on/off the lead - the dogs are excited and vying for attention from any passing person.

Yesterday in the park there was the most awful commotion at the back of a parked dog van where a fight between dogs broke out - the woman had difficulty controlling them. You could hear the ferocious barking, fighting and her shouting from quite a distance - it was unnerving.

I do think part of the problem is that some dog owners believe owning a dog is a right and that the right extends to others having to put up with their dog.

There’s often no issue because dogs can be exercised and taken about without causing a nuisance to others, and good owners pick up their dog’s mess.

But there are enough bad owners to create persistent problems (and a broader expectation has crept in among owners that dogs should be allowed in places they didn’t used to be, like shops and cafes). There is also a tendency to think that because dogs are allowed somewhere, that gives dog owners a right to regard it as ‘theirs’ (we’ve seen that on this thread, about beaches). When the problems happen, all owners will get caught up in the objections.

Owning a dog is a privilege not a right, and dog owners should always put other people’s - especially children’s - safety and welfare first. I accept most do. But very far from all.

I wouldn’t be surprised if a law requiring all dogs on leads in public places comes in at some point. I would feel sorry for excellent owners who don’t need such a law to make them control their dog, but that’s not the point.

@SoreAndTired1
@Funnywonder for reference, please read my posts correctly. I was referring to a previous poster about parental fear being projeced onto their children.

I your world, I am obviously not allowed to take my dog to a park... just in case someone has an allergy or is scared.

Newsflash: you are correct I give a shit, while I am using a public space where dogs on / off leash are allowed.

I know you were referencing a previous person, (JamJar59). Which is why I referenced your reply to them "You sound like the serotype parent that projects their fear and hatred of animals onto their DC", AND your reply to me "I can see from your post, that you teach your DC that the world and everyone in it revolves around them."

It is you, that needs to learn to read posts correctly...

Why? Lots of professionals recommend support dogs so I doubt they’d see anything wrong with it. The psychology behind it is actually not complicated. Dogs provide unconditional, non-judgemental love and companionship with no trust issues.

Humans can be bitchy, two faced and can cause a lot more hurt than dogs.

The only humans I prefer to my dog is my DH and children.

This comment is very ableist.

Some adults/children with conditions like autism obviously find interaction with people very difficult. Support dogs can be life changing for these people.

This is turning into a dog fight - it's ridiculous.

@MNHQ you may need to step in.

And you’re exactly the kind of person I was talking about.

It’s an animal. Keep it at home.

Just straight out hatred of animals, dogs shouldn’t take it personal. Although, apparently they’ve to stay locked up.

I’m pretty sure that the nursery considered allergies beforehand.

Some people with autism find interaction with dogs and their owners very difficult as well, particularly when the owners are not complying with any posted rules!

Thinking a pet should be kept at home does not equate to 'hatred' of animals. The hyperbole and stretching in your post says more about you than anything.
Also perhaps a child might be allergic and the nursery didn't know.

That’s lovely, I’m glad the child got to enjoy an interaction with a dog that their parent wouldn’t have allowed. The parent probably wasn’t happy.

I see the exact same things. People pushing their child out of the way of dogs, crossing roads etc. Even making comments when they’re meters away like ‘Oh don’t go near that dog, it might bite you’. It’s ridiculous and scaring children for no reason.

I have dog. He’s a very old rescue that had an awful life for many years. I’ve worked a lot with him to make him less fearful and he has done so well. He’s fine unless a dog runs up to him that he doesn’t know as he will bark and warn them off so I tell dog walkers that he is on lead as he is anxious and to not let their dog run up to him. Some dogs and owners we have got to know and he trusts the dog so will give them a sniff then ignore them. All he wants to do is have a slow, plodding walk then go home to his bed.

He is never off the lead as he is not able to cope with children. He gets scared and thinks they are for chasing and tugging at sleeves so he is always on a short lead and never in close proximity. There are a few older children who we know and who I allow to give him a treat and a bit of a fuss on lead but I’m always there and have him under good control. Restaurants are a no go as he can’t cope with the stress and goes into a barking, panicky meltdown!

He has a nice life now and is seeing out his final years as stress free as I can make them.

Actually, you need to learn to read posts correctly. @DancefloorAcrobatics was referring to my comment originally about projecting fear onto children, saying they agreed and then giving her example.

When I say they’d have considered allergies first, I mean they’d have asked the parents. Not just brought a dog in and hoped for the best.

Thinking a pet should be kept at home does not equate to ‘hatred’ of animals.
But why should an animal that requires exercise, interaction with other animals and people in order to be well socialised, and who toilets outside, be kept at home?

They never do step in, unless someone reports.

YANBU
most dog owners cannot control their dogs.
they shout “no, Fido don’t do that!”
And usually the dog takes absolutely no notice of them!
And the owners expect to have no control, they just say something to appear to be taking action

I take a stick and if a dog comes too close to my kids I prod it firmly
sometimes the owners look aghast but I just say to them… if you cannot control your dog then other people have to take action

tough shit

i like dogs though.